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Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:58 AM

I didn't try multi-pass.  I'll experiment with that too.


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 11:29 AM

I didn't try multi-pass.  I'll experiment with that too.

Robert

I've found a solution to the difficulty ( possibly) but not an answer to the problem  causing it.

I've deleted the layer and replaced it with a new backdrop on the same scale using the same decal.

If it works I' get it composited and posted later

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 12:37 PM

Here's the result I get with Multipass.  No jitter.

 

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 12:45 PM

Here's the result I get with Multipass.  No jitter.

 

attachicon.gifBlurNoToonHold25FPSMulti_000.mov

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Are you doing that in V18 ?

I'm puzzled.

I've got a version with no jitter now, but had to substitute a .mdl file for the layer and use the jpg as a decal at the appropriate scale.

Each time I thought I'd 'cracked it' I rendered a test and got  jitter.

How did you do it ?

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heres a test with no layer and a mdl plane.

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 02:13 PM

The only change I made to your chor was to force the first camera keyframe to Hold interpolation


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 03:30 AM

The only change I made to your chor was to force the first camera keyframe to Hold interpolation

Robert

Thank you. I tried that, and retained it thereafter but,  still got the  twitching.

A puzzle indeed. I wonder if it was a by product of the Toon render ?

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:15 AM

The same scene, some while later, at a more sedate pace...

Any critical feedback greatly appreciated

simonAttached File  NHF S006 Mini.mov   21.14MB   19 downloads


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 07:38 PM

Simon, this is my ideas : moving Rotoscope
http://www.bobby.in....Background.html
I'm sorry not in English but I think pictures can tell more words.



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Posted 04 January 2017 - 04:02 AM

Bobby

Thank you. I remembered your example and was thinking of it when I tried mine.

Your background photos were a lot better than mine and fitted together very well.

Mine did not.

I have another project that your example will work really well on and will use it then,

It uses a time lapse sequence  with a motorised camera  turn,, so  the photos all link up nicely.

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 12:43 PM

Haven't worked out the clouds yet but, this was an idea towards the intro for the project.

Going for a time lapse effect.

Its going to be a TV commercial for the property developers and acts as a link between two scenes.

Any critical feedback very welcome.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 04:03 PM

Two tests, with clouds.

My personal preference is for the coloured sky but,

wonder if the greyer version allows the rest to read more easily ?

Any critical feedback very welcome indeed.

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Attached File  Intro 01.mov   10.86MB   6 downloads

 

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 07:02 PM

The gray is more somber, the color is more "daytime".  Which are you aiming for?


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 01:01 AM

Robert

Thank you for your feedback. Much appreciated.

 

I'm trying to get it to look like a TV commercial for a property developer. Its  the link into the second scene where, the two main characters are having lunch in front of the news on TV. It sets up  the location for later in the short, when the Bill and Doris go to visit their daughter and grandchildren. The news report is about  the developers going bust and the  financial crisis reaching the region.

Basically, its the context in which the narrative takes place.

Hope that doesn't all sound too pompous.

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 12:24 PM

Following suggestions  received, adapted the colour version.

 

Any critical feedback very welcome.

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 07:31 AM

I think it ought to start with nothing on the ground rather than the first set of blocks.

 

For the clouds, i think you need an actual timelapse of clouds drifting by rather than dissolves from different shots.  The different cloud shots are distracting from the buildings.

 

Could you set up a camera and click off a frame every 5 minutes?


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 06:41 AM

Robert

Thank you for your feedback.

Agree about the starting blocks  ( !  pardon pun ) but I think the clouds work OK as an indicator of seasonal time ? I hadn't thought of that initially, but followed up a suggestion on FB.  It seemed to make more sense to  give a  longer timelapse than a short version, given that it covers one house, then the whole estate being built ?

 

I have  a lot of timelapse cloud sequences from other projects ( presently resting in the fridge, awaiting reheating ). Its relatively easy to do these days with a DSLR and a laptop, even bought a clockwork rotating head so you can get panoramic timelapses. Ebay is a terrible diverter of funding !!!

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 08:58 AM

Some updates to work so far.

 

720's from 1080's files

Any critical feedback very welcome indeed.

 

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Attached File  S Four.mov   24.71MB   1 downloads


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:49 AM

First part of the next scene, just before  Doris arrives on her motorbike.

Any critical feedback very  appreciated  and welcome.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:09 PM

Looks good from here Simon.

 

 

 

Just in case you are wondering... I don't often comment on things that look good enough to go to the next stage.

Some folks prefer deep feedback and others look for encouragement but I struggle a bit with this... it sounds silly but... I guess I want what I write to be read.   ;)

Yes, I read too much into this but some people don't care for 'Looks good.' commentary and some desire in depth feedback, analysis, etc. etc. even to the point of discussing the tiniest detail.

But we can also over analyse a shot to the point where nothing ever gets finished.

We definitely don't want to do that.

 

I'll have to look at the forum's 'Like' system and see if it could be tweaked for use with a method to quickly suggest a thumbs up/green light.

Then it might become mostly a matter of looking for those cues from people whose feedback you consider sufficiently in line with your expectations to commit to moving forward.

 

Bottom line:  You are making impressive progress with this project and I enjoy seeing your updates.  That's why we have this WIP section.

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 12:53 AM

Rodney

Thank you very much for your feedback and encouragement. Much appreciated.

I'm happy with all feedback, I get a bit involved  and start to lose perspective so, any comments or suggestions will help against that.

I Hope to have the next  part done today. I have to make sure her hands  stay in the  handle bars and put the sky in . Minor details !

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 11:53 AM

Two slightly different versions of the same scene.
001 has an all toon figure in the foreground,
 
002 has toon flesh over a 'normal' dress.
Any preferences ?
Mine is towards the second but very happy to hear other views ?
Hope to get the animated version done tomorrow.
 
Test 001.jpg
 
Test 002.jpg

 


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Posted 20 February 2017 - 02:25 PM

Doris arriving on her bike. Colour version.

Trying to get the tipsy neighbour  done  tomorrow.

Critical comment very welcome.

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