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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:14 AM

 


Your video showed what happened with your model rigged with the TSM Rig.

 

Did you guys try the Saucy Rig in the eggbot model at all?  If so then what were the results with the walk cycle?

 

 

No. I made the Eggbot long ago and pulled it out because I knew it had the leg-scaling which is something I wanted to include in the exercise.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:35 PM

 

 


Your video showed what happened with your model rigged with the TSM Rig.

 

Did you guys try the Saucy Rig in the eggbot model at all?  If so then what were the results with the walk cycle?

 

 

No. I made the Eggbot long ago and pulled it out because I knew it had the leg-scaling which is something I wanted to include in the exercise.

 

 

Hmmm…  So I am actually being asked to add a feature to my rig, that you guys have not even tried in this scenario, to address a problem that you are having in a completely different rig.

I see.

As I said before, the Squetch Rig has what you need right now for your situation (Leg Scaling and Soft IK).  It’s a great rig so consider trying that out for now.  You could even use the Squetchy Sam example character which is pre-rigged to complete your exercise.

In the meantime, I will continue to work adding leg scaling to the Saucy Rig on my end.  I’ll take more time to add or tweak a few other things that I’ve been thinking about while I’m at it.

I’ll post here again when I have completed the update.


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 07:54 PM

Hmmm…  So I am actually being asked to add a feature to my rig, that you guys have not even tried in this scenario, to address a problem that you are having in a completely different rig.

 

Something is not being communicated. 

 

This is not a problem of the TSM2 rig. This is standard walk animation workflow. You want this leg scaling no matter what rig you are using.

 

I didn't install the Saucy rig in my old eggbot character to try leg scaling because I had already tried it with the sample Saucy characters and didn't see any way to get that result.

 

 

This is an example of what i got...

Attached File  clip4276SaucyScaling.mp4   6.16MB   6 downloads

 

 

I'm not trying to trick you or anything. I don't know what you mean when you say it is there already.

 

 

 

 


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 02:22 AM

I never said that the Saucy Rig has the leg scaling that you need right now I said that the Squetch Rig does. (by David Simmons... AKA "itsjustme")

 

Go here:

 

Squetch Rig download files.

 

Download the file named "v13s_Squetchy_Sam_07_19_2017_with_sleeves_and_switches.zip "

 

Use Squetchy Sam for your exercise.

 

Problem solved.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 08:45 AM

I see, I misread that!  Sorry!

 

TSM has it too. However, Steve and Chris wanted to use the Saucy rig for their projects. They have a whole bunch of characters that are already Saucy-rigged.

If it's not something practical to add to Saucy rig or you don't have time to do it, I understand that completely, but we wanted to inquire.  

 

Maybe it was going to be easy to add, we didn't know.


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Posted 10 June 2018 - 11:05 AM

No problem.

 

I have some time and I am working on it now. 

 

It won't be easy to add but it should not be terribly difficult either.

 

This will have to be a new rig but I am shooting for the same kind of install automation that we are used to with with the current rig.

 

I am thinking of putting together something for you to review with your Eggbot before I go too deep into this.  That way, I'll know if I am on target with what you need (I think that I am but I just need to make sure). 

 

I don't have a timetable for when you could expect that yet.

 

If that is alright with you then I will PM you the file once I rig it.


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Posted 10 June 2018 - 11:58 AM

If there was a process by which one could manually add this to existing Saucy characters that would be a useful thing

 

What bones to add.  Where to add them. What constraints to change...


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Posted 10 June 2018 - 01:16 PM

If there was a process by which one could manually add this to existing Saucy characters that would be a useful thing

 

What bones to add.  Where to add them. What constraints to change...

 

Gosh Robert, that would be useful but you're asking a lot from me already.

I was trying to work with you here but I guess I'm not working fast enough for you. 

Before I continue let me post this here from my website:


"I will advise you of this before you proceed (and to paraphrase Steffen Gross):


This rig was originally designed as a working relief for me and, therefore, raises no claim or guarantee that it will work well for you  (or even work at all).  I will not offer any support for this work beyond what I have already posted or may post in the future by my own volition.  You should use this rig at your own risk.  Make sure you always have backups of your important work."



So I'm tapping out now with that in mind.  I'm not going to help you out with this.


One of the goals of the Saucy Rig was to make it easy for people to install and use.


Right now you're in "You should build your own rig." territory because what you are talking about isn't easy for the average person to do, it's time consuming for me, and you don't seem to appreciate that fact.


You are certainly welcome to modify the Saucy Rig to suit your needs.  If you study the rig for yourself you'll be able to see that the hierarchies are modular so you can make sense of it if you are committed to learning how it was done.


Or... you can build your own rig from scratch.


So I'm done with trying to help out with your project.  I have my own to work to get back to.

 

Maybe others here will be willing to help you out with this.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck.



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Posted 10 June 2018 - 02:05 PM

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I'm not sure what I said that was a problem.

 

If you don't have time, you don't have time. I completely understand that. You have no obligations in this.

 

It just seemed to me since you were going to figure out how to add it to the Saucy rig, once you knew what the new stuff is you could document that for people who wanted to add it to old characters.

If it's not possible, it's not possible.


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