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I took the plunge and decided to install the Windows 10 preview.

Just prior to installation I tweaked a few settings, cleaned up a few things and moved important things to an external drive.

As I was installing an uneasy feeling crept over me... what if this doesn't work out so well?

My primary concern in updating Windows being how well A:M will run (of course!).

 

While installation moved along it seemed to stall at about 2/3rds through so I browsed and continued to organize files on my other monitor (which I'd thought to turn back on and make sure was working prior to install.

 

Still stalled at the same location for entirely too long I bit my tongue and initiated shutdown.

Windows suggested I wait to power off until updates were complete so I broke out some drawing books and reviewed why they'd captured my attention when I purchased them.

 

The PC automatically shut down and I powered back on.

 

"Please wait while updates install"...

 

Fine.

 

Windows login screen appears.

Login.

Hmmm... everything looks the same.

How do I turn on Win10? Did it even install?

 

Looks like the install took me back to square one, which is just as well because my system seems to be running perfectly now.

So... I think I'll wait awhile until I try that Win10 update.

 

Is there anyone out there running Win10 that can share their experience on how well A:M is running?

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So i wonder what changed.

 

 

There are a lot of folks writing/blogging about the changes so I won't try to itemize it all. The main thing that appears to have changed is Microsoft approach to remaining relevant in an age where competition is brutal. This is signaled primarily by the introduction of Microsoft Edge which is their move away from Internet Explorer which has lost ground to Chrome, Safari, Firefox, etc. and will likely continue to lose ground. It's not entirely clear what Microsoft plans to do in the short term with two browsers; indications are that Internet Explorer will be dropped.

 

Cortana (which is Microsoft's take on Siri-like personal assistants) I have mostly ignored to this point but it does demonstrate Microsofts recognition that such personalized yet automated services are gaining serious traction as mobile platforms continue to make computer users out of everyone. It's this last element that of mobility that has caused a major shift in the market as the space once maintained by technical-types gives way to new generations that have grown up with access to internet connectivity.

 

More simply and superficially Microsoft has taken a step back on it full push into mobile in that it realizes that it moved too far and too fast in it's effort to ditch the desktop; alienating a large part of their customers with it's removal of the start menu that everyone who had ever used WIndows was well accustomed to. I've been using Win 8.1 so had access to a proper start menu but was always dismayed by the extra steps necessary to get to programs I wanted to use. Does Win 10 address this? Time will tell. First I have to unlearn some of that workflow established in 8/8.1.

 

There are some promising changes that might relate to A:M, like DirectX12, but I'm not sure how that all plays because with recent releases of A:M DirectX has been out. OpenGL is working so well on my system at present I'm quite happy to leave it out.

 

So the answer to the question of what has changed approaches both 'everything' and 'nothing'.

With Win10 I'd say Microsoft is primarily laying the foundation they wish to build upon.

 

Added: I have read reports of numerous bugs (and anti-Microsoft rants) but thus far I haven't ran into any of them. The one of most interest to me is a copy/paste bug because I use that a lot but again... I haven't run across that in the wild. As a lot of A:M Users dual boot into Windows via Mac it will be interesting to see how that works for them.

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Well, it wasn't released yesterday (yesterday's yesterday that is).

 

But to circle around the question to hone in a little more on likely answers.

Firstly, I assume you are referring to my earlier attempt to install back in May (and not literally yesterday because it never did not work yesterday so... invalid question).

 

Back in May I started the process by signing up for the initial early release candidate to get a feel for what the final release would operate.

Parts of that downloaded and parts installed. Somewhere in the process the install wasn't sure it should go forward and gave me the option to continue. I chickened out** and stopped. So, Windows restored the previous install. After that I tried to make sure that all parts of Win8.1 were updated to the latest updates before initializing the official Win10 install. I think updating those helped and normally I might not install those but didn't want to take any chances on interim fixes being missed. So the update from a fully refreshed install of Win8.1 to Win10 was pretty straightforward. It did takes some time... I'm not sure exactly how much time as I started the install and didn't get back to my computer for about 10 hours. After returning I finished the install which took about 30 minutes.

 

That's my story and Ima stickin' to it. :)

 

 

*By chickened out more accurately I mean to say that I must have selected an option that stopped the earlier install. Techically, I didn't know that I'd chickened out but was quite relieved when I found myself back at my old v8.1 desktop. Win10 doesn't look a whole lot different from my old desktop.

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OK, I didn't see the first post was in May. :facepalm:

 

I'm still on the fence. I'm think I'm going to image my Windows 7 first and then try 10 so i can revert back easy if too much stuff doesn't work. I don't want to lose After Effects.

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I don't want to lose After Effects.

 

Back awhile I was going to post some info related to moving your files from older After Effects into current release but for a variety of reasons didn't post that info (specifically, I don't like to spend other people). I assume you already know the ideal upgrade path and prefer to maintain your older software as well as preferring not to move to the current Adobe CC subscription. All cool. If that isn't the case just say the word and I'll provide what little I know. One thing worth looking at is Adobe's move with the new subscription to enable older versions to operate. It won't go back as far as yours but if it allows the right middleman version to update your files may be well worth it.

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I don't use After effects enough to warrant getting into the subscription pricing, but I use it enough that I don't want to give it up. I'll have to stay put on Win 7 for now.

 

Did you have to reinstall all your old programs or did they get brought along automatically?

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Did you have to reinstall all your old programs or did they get brought along automatically?

 

Didn't have to reinstall anything (no programs, apps... zilch) as they all appear to have made the transition automatically.

I did update Adobe CC shortly after updating to Win10 (because the manager said updates were available) but none of those updates mention anything about Win10.

I would imagine that companies will release updates to take advantage of Win10 so won't be surprised to see them.

 

Today's Windows 10 panic...

 

That's interesting. From my days as a workgroup manager I often opined about how nefarious types could circumvent passwords and it seems Microsoft has used that exact same strategy to enable them to do just that. Wheels within wheels. There are some aspects of this that I think are 1) inevitable 2) advantageous. Inevitable in the sense that in a perfect world there would be no passwords (or at least not of the form we are accustomed to using) and advantageous in that where no passwords exist a freer exchange of resources, information and ideas is enabled. And I'll add, also inevitable in that the folks in power need that framework in place to move to the next stage of where they are heading

 

I suspect that we haven't heard... 'the rest of the story'... of Microsoft (and the general push from just about everyone) moving toward authentication via methods other than passwords (images/parts of images/captchas, biometrics (fingerprints, eye scans, voice recognition), etc.). This surely will play into this 'your password is shared with everyone scenario'. This is both good....in that validation of who we are in a transaction is important... and bad... there are many times we prefer/desire not to be known as involved in a transaction. There is a very fine line to travel inbetween those two extremes to find optimal parity.

 

But consider this; if you can know for a fact that I stole your wallet (the one you left out on the front porch next to the jar full of candy and a sign saying, 'Please help yourself') as well as when I stole it and where the wallet went thereafter, might that make a difference in how much you care about sharing passwords?.

 

Bottom line: Remember passwords are an artificial construct that makes us feel safe when in fact we aren't safe from those who know how to circumvent that password.

Translation: I ain't scared although I surely I should be. :)

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That was useful (the tip on turning things off in Settings/Privacy)

 

Microsoft should have turned the majority of those settings off by default and asked users if they wanted to opt in upon installation; the goal being to get folks to upgrade/update to Win10 not sit on the fence wondering if it's the right move to make. That would have eased the minds of a lot more folks who are wary of such things, not to mention the potential for bad press when those that oppose see opportunity to sow seeds of discontent.

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Another calm, reasoned article about the privacy settings...

 

Broken Windows Theory, Microsoft’s Windows 10 is a privacy nightmare. Here’s how to protect yourself.

 

By default, Windows 10 gives itself the right to pass loads of your data to Microsoft’s servers, use your bandwidth for Microsoft’s own purposes, and profile your Windows usage. Despite the accolades Microsoft has earned for finally doing its job, Windows 10 is currently a privacy morass in dire need of reform...

 

 

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I have 10 up and working the last couple of days no major issues

 

Woo Hoo. Nothing like success.

 

There is only one program that I've experienced problems with and...

 

1) I'm not sure it's related to Win 10

 

2) I'm not sure it's a permanent-type problem (maybe I had something pressing on my keyboard by mistake... like the other day when I was wondering why my screen was scrolling without my input only to find I'd placed a book down on my space key. Doh!

 

The program in question is Camtasia so if anyone has that they might be able to confirm.

The issue was that when I went to edit a track the edit would show up at another location.

Closing down and restarting I haven't seen similar activity.

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