TheSpleen
Sep 11 2011, 10:55 AM
I have yet to truly work with AM's cloth wizard.
So I am giving it a shot!
I am wanting to make a skirt for a new video.
Here is what I have:
Click to view attachmentbut around the 20th frame the simulation stops. why? How do I fix that?
Also please tell me how to make it so the legs do not poke through skirt?
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gene
robcat2075
Sep 11 2011, 11:53 AM
QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 11 2011, 01:55 PM)

but around the 20th frame the simulation stops. why? How do I fix that?
First thing I'd check is if the Chor length is only 20 frames. The blue bar will show that. YOu can either extend the blue bar OR...
in the properties for the Chor>plugin properties>simcloth....
turn "Use Chor Time Range" OFF and set a desired time span below that.
Simcloth need some time span or otherwise it would not know when to stop
Walter Baker
Sep 11 2011, 02:40 PM
Looks good SPLEEN, I been playing with cloth for a good while now and and when you make a chor. (like Rob said) in the plugin/simcloth you can turn the time to off and then set new times.
I always START at a -15 frames (to give the cloth time to settle) and END time to when ever you want.
I start a simple animation at frame 5 so then if there is a deflector it has time to prepare to meet it.
on the model (legs) make a deflector for that...
Materials/SimCloth then change to Def.
Now when you set up the Chor./Plugins/ set the Colision Tolerance to like.50 or .25 this is the distance between the cloth and the deflector.
Then Simulate
Attached project look at the settings for the cloth material
TheSpleen
Sep 11 2011, 05:25 PM
I cannot find any of the settings either of you have told me lol
That's probably my problem.
robcat2075
Sep 11 2011, 07:16 PM
Open your properties window
Select the Chor. That's where chor properties are.
But surely you can see the blue bar, no?
TheSpleen
Sep 12 2011, 04:14 PM
Click to view attachmentI got it to last longer.
Still passing through legs though.
TheSpleen
Sep 12 2011, 05:26 PM
QUOTE(Walter Baker @ Sep 11 2011, 02:40 PM)

I start a simple animation at frame 5 so then if there is a deflector it has time to prepare to meet it.
on the model (legs) make a deflector for that...
Materials/SimCloth then change to Def.
Now when you set up the Chor./Plugins/ set the Colision Tolerance to like.50 or .25 this is the distance between the cloth and the deflector.
Then Simulate
Attached project look at the settings for the cloth material
can you show me were to find these please?
robcat2075
Sep 12 2011, 07:10 PM
-Gene, what part of looking at the settings on the cloth material in the materials folder is not working?
-Is there a deflector material on her legs?
TheSpleen
Sep 12 2011, 08:39 PM
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2011, 07:10 PM)

-Gene, what part of looking at the settings on the cloth material in the materials folder is not working?
-Is there a deflector material on her legs?
no I do not understand
Please enlighten me
robcat2075
Sep 12 2011, 10:02 PM
QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 12 2011, 11:39 PM)

QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2011, 07:10 PM)

-Gene, what part of looking at the settings on the cloth material in the materials folder is not working?
-Is there a deflector material on her legs?
no I do not understand
Please enlighten me
For Fuchur's sample...
Click to view attachment
TheSpleen
Sep 13 2011, 07:29 AM
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2011, 10:02 PM)

QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 12 2011, 11:39 PM)

QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2011, 07:10 PM)

-Gene, what part of looking at the settings on the cloth material in the materials folder is not working?
-Is there a deflector material on her legs?
no I do not understand
Please enlighten me
For Fuchur's sample...
Click to view attachmentthere is no "cloth" material in mine
Click to view attachment
robcat2075
Sep 13 2011, 11:08 AM
QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 13 2011, 10:29 AM)

there is no "cloth" material in mine
Click to view attachmenthmmm... do you recall ever making a cloth material?
Gerry
Sep 13 2011, 11:49 AM
Gene, have you done the "Waving the flag" exercise in TaoAM? That should help you understand the basic settings.
Walter Baker
Sep 13 2011, 01:13 PM
Gene could you send the project here? I would really like to see how you got that action like cloth without cloth.
Makes me wonder if it could be a Force like the flag tut. or some other plugin.
I see 2 models in your picture, could there be something on that model......very curious...
But to answer your question I would create a deflector in your Materials and put it on legs group just to see what happens.
TheSpleen
Sep 13 2011, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(Gerry @ Sep 13 2011, 11:49 AM)

Gene, have you done the "Waving the flag" exercise in TaoAM? That should help you understand the basic settings.
Doing that exercise is how I got as far as I did.
TheSpleen
Sep 13 2011, 05:22 PM
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentThis black is the rotoscope
Click to view attachmenton the model I named the skirt "cloth" (because the flag lesson named it that.)
in muscle mode select "cloth" then in yellow square around skirt click "cloth wizard"
then "Simulate cloth"
NancyGormezano
Sep 13 2011, 06:03 PM
QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 13 2011, 06:22 PM)

on the model I named the skirt "cloth" (because the flag lesson named it that.)
in muscle mode select "cloth" then in yellow square around skirt click "cloth wizard"
then "Simulate cloth"
Hmmm...almost sounds like you are using outdated cloth method. I didn't look at your chor, nor read the TAOA:M, however Holmes' Tutorial on
SIMCLOTH is more up to date. Have a look, this is more likely what you should be using, assuming you are using ver 15 or ver 16 (and even earlier).
robcat2075
Sep 13 2011, 06:03 PM
QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 13 2011, 08:22 PM)

in muscle mode select "cloth" then in yellow square around skirt click "cloth wizard"
then "Simulate cloth"
What version are you using?
TheSpleen
Sep 13 2011, 06:36 PM
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:03 PM)

QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 13 2011, 08:22 PM)

in muscle mode select "cloth" then in yellow square around skirt click "cloth wizard"
then "Simulate cloth"
What version are you using?
V15
TheSpleen
Sep 13 2011, 06:37 PM
QUOTE(NancyGormezano @ Sep 13 2011, 06:03 PM)

QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Sep 13 2011, 06:22 PM)

on the model I named the skirt "cloth" (because the flag lesson named it that.)
in muscle mode select "cloth" then in yellow square around skirt click "cloth wizard"
then "Simulate cloth"
Hmmm...almost sounds like you are using outdated cloth method. I didn't look at your chor, nor read the TAOA:M, however Holmes' Tutorial on
SIMCLOTH is more up to date. Have a look, this is more likely what you should be using, assuming you are using ver 15 or ver 16 (and even earlier).
Thank you
Walter Baker
Sep 14 2011, 02:47 AM
Good morning Gene, been sucking down coffee for a while so I started playing with your model.
I didn't know about the spring stuff in your chor. so I just took the model and made some changes for cloth.
I hope this helps.
TheSpleen
Sep 17 2011, 05:47 PM
robcat2075
Sep 18 2011, 07:38 AM
Show a few seconds of animation. We can gauge the behavior better.
TheSpleen
Sep 18 2011, 05:36 PM
Working on it
Walter Baker
Oct 1 2011, 02:00 AM
Hi Gene, how did your cloth work turn out?
TheSpleen
Oct 1 2011, 12:39 PM
QUOTE(Walter Baker @ Oct 1 2011, 02:00 AM)

Hi Gene, how did your cloth work turn out?
Myron rigged me a skirt with smartskin, It will do what I need.
Gerry
Oct 2 2011, 10:06 AM
QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Oct 1 2011, 04:39 PM)

QUOTE(Walter Baker @ Oct 1 2011, 02:00 AM)

Hi Gene, how did your cloth work turn out?
Myron rigged me a skirt with smartskin, It will do what I need.
Gene, I'm glad that will work out for you, but getting the hang of the cloth settings will be more worth your while over the long haul. Also, once you figure it out, it's great fun to play with.
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