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jason1025
Witch one has the best camera move? Disregard the lighting, and render quality etc...

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TheSpleen
Is it meant to be shakey?
Like a cellphone video?
jason1025
QUOTE(TheSpleen @ Mar 5 2010, 01:53 AM) *
Is it meant to be shakey?
Like a cellphone video?



Yes it is meant to be shaky. That is what I am going for, the reality show look.
jason1025
Havent you folks ever watched battle star Galactica? All the space shots that are cg are hand held and very shaky.
robcat2075
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I picked Shot 4 only because it has a bit more of an initial jiggle at the beginning that suggested the camera was being bumped out of a resting place.

I think they would all be functional.

I last watched Battlestar Galactica in 1979.





fae_alba
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Mar 5 2010, 02:14 PM) *
I last watched Battlestar Galactica in 1979.


bee dee beee dee beeep...hey Buck...

(sorry, couldn't help but date myself)
Hutch
I remember thinking Battlestar Galactica was awesome when I was a kid. When they came out with a dvd box set shaped like cylon's head a few years back I thought it would be fun to watch again. I don't think I even finished 2 episodes. I guess cool robots and ships was all that held my attention as a kid. Anyway, I never had any interest in the new stuff.
AniMattor
I'm curious what you did to get the camera moves. Are they hand animated? Having a shaky cam like that really pulls you out of the "oh it's cg" feeling. Makes it interesting.
jason1025
QUOTE(AniMattor @ Mar 5 2010, 11:56 AM) *
I'm curious what you did to get the camera moves. Are they hand animated? Having a shaky cam like that really pulls you out of the "oh it's cg" feeling. Makes it interesting.



I completely agree, that is what I was going for. There is a term for that that was coined in the fifty's, I forget the term but it causes/triggers a primal uncomfortable felling in us human beings because what we are viewing is something that is not human or reality but is so closely imitating a human or reality.

It can actually scare us when we see this in real life. The term that I cant remember has been brought up in resent years because of real life robots made in Japan that are so closely resembling actual human beings and our movements.

I shot 4 takes with a real video camera at true 24fps as you can see below. So the Shots are mostly NOT hand animated at least not in AM/ CG land. The real life camera move is actually shakier so I smoothed the shot out in AM by just deleting every 2 key frames but as the shot gets towards the end I only delete every other key then not at all. I also modified the shot by "ADDING" an additional minor choreography action that modified the original move / action.
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jason1025
more votes please
Hutch
QUOTE(jason1025 @ Mar 5 2010, 03:35 PM) *
QUOTE(AniMattor @ Mar 5 2010, 11:56 AM) *
I'm curious what you did to get the camera moves. Are they hand animated? Having a shaky cam like that really pulls you out of the "oh it's cg" feeling. Makes it interesting.



I completely agree, that is what I was going for. There is a term for that that was coined in the fifty's, I forget the term but it causes/triggers a primal uncomfortable felling in us human beings because what we are viewing is something that is not human or reality but is so closely imitating a human or reality.

It can actually scare us when we see this in real life. The term that I cant remember has been brought up in resent years because of real life robots made in Japan that are so closely resembling actual human beings and our movements.

I shot 4 takes with a real video camera at true 24fps as you can see below. So the Shots are mostly NOT hand animated at least not in AM/ CG land. The real life camera move is actually shakier so I smoothed the shot out in AM by just deleting every 2 key frames but as the shot gets towards the end I only delete every other key then not at all. I also modified the shot by "ADDING" an additional minor choreography action that modified the original move / action.
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'Uncanny valley' I believe is the term.
jason1025
yes

thats the term. Thank you
John Bigboote
I voted for the currently most popular option...but I really saw all 3 as 'from the same mill' or very, very similar. I guess I was expecting more variance. All in all, I think you nailed the 'hand-held' llok and feel- it is very 'human'.
AniMattor
what software did you use to import the camera move into AM? I tried a few free-ware ones a while back with no good results.
jason1025
QUOTE(AniMattor @ Mar 6 2010, 06:12 PM) *
what software did you use to import the camera move into AM? I tried a few free-ware ones a while back with no good results.




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