MJL
Sep 13 2009, 10:55 PM
In the early 60's Stanley Mouse (Miller) was responsible for a large portion of the San Francisco concert posters at the Fillmore, the Carousel Ballroom, and the Winterland concert posters. He became closely associated with the Grateful Dead and did a ton of artwork for them as well.
His early stuff had a very strong art nouveau influence.
I've decided to emulate his style for my website imagery and have been playing around with the style. this is my first image.
This is a jpg conversion of a TGA rendering from A:M.
I'm having a problem getting crisp edges on the imagery (I'm using Corel Photo Paint X3). There are a lot of image specialists here on the forum, and I was wondering if anyone could give me some hints as to how to the crisp imagery that I'm after. Thank You in advance for any help.
Myron
Luuk Steitner
Sep 13 2009, 11:08 PM
Does the image come blurred like this from A:M? Is it a 3D model? You could render a larger version so you have better control in your paint application. When you have the look you like scale it down and make it a JPEG, that should always be the last step.
MJL
Sep 13 2009, 11:21 PM
It is a 3d model. I'll try scaling it up and see what happens.
Thanks, Luuk
EDIT: Still Blurry
Luuk Steitner
Sep 13 2009, 11:32 PM
What kind of material did you use for this model? Did you use glow? Is depth of field turned off?
MJL
Sep 13 2009, 11:33 PM
I zoomed in and rendered just a corner. It's closer to a cleaner image.
MJL
Sep 13 2009, 11:35 PM
No material, no glow, and I'm not sure where to turn depth of field on or off
the colors are just various "group" surface diffuse colors
Nothing else
robcat2075
Sep 14 2009, 12:07 AM
render at a larger res and scale down in photoshop.
Like double the res you were using.
MJL
Sep 14 2009, 12:26 AM
Thanks, Rob.
I doubled the res like you suggested and it helped a lot
robcat2075
Sep 14 2009, 12:54 AM
that's beautiful. it's so painterly i'd have thought it was done with some sort of a brush in PS
MJL
Sep 14 2009, 01:03 AM
Thank You, Rob.
I can work better manipulating cp's than I can using my mouse in my image programs. I like it in 3d because the ridges stand out. I've got quite a bit of time in it but I hope to improve my technique and cut the time down. I don't really care about the patch count because it's just imagery. I'm gonna work on lighting it next to hopefully bring out the highlights.
" I love the flow of Art Nouveau"
Paul Forwood
Sep 14 2009, 01:18 AM
Looks great, Myron!
NancyGormezano
Sep 14 2009, 04:33 AM
That's gorgeous!
itsjustme
Sep 14 2009, 08:19 AM
Very cool, Myron!
largento
Sep 14 2009, 08:23 AM
I agree! That looks beautiful!
TheSpleen
Sep 14 2009, 10:06 AM
great stuff Myron!
Shelton
Sep 14 2009, 10:44 AM
Nicely done!!
Steve
MJL
Sep 20 2009, 12:05 PM
Here is the finished Entry Page for my website overhaul.
I wanted an "Old Time" feel invoking the kind of feeling you get when you see a piece of machinery made in the late 19th or early 20th century. Antique from the time when things were made with quality and meant to last. Pretty high goal, I know, but I'm pretty happy with this image.
TheSpleen
Sep 20 2009, 12:05 PM
NOW THAT LOOKS GOOD!
NancyGormezano
Sep 20 2009, 12:12 PM
Very nice!
robcat2075
Sep 20 2009, 12:46 PM
Hallelujah!
MJL
Sep 22 2009, 01:18 PM
That first image I used a rotoscope from an image I got off the net.
This one was made from scratch. Experimenting with materials as well. I'll add more to this one, but I'm happy thus far.
MJL
Sep 29 2009, 11:02 AM
Playing with Materials, Splinage, and just plain having fun!
robcat2075
Sep 29 2009, 11:08 AM
very beautiful!
TheSpleen
Sep 29 2009, 01:27 PM
very smooth
lookin good!
NancyGormezano
Sep 29 2009, 05:27 PM
VERY VERY GORGEOUS!
MJL
Sep 29 2009, 08:01 PM
Thank You, Robert.
Thanks, Gene, smooth is my middle name. (Well, actually its Mergatroyd but that's another post entirely.)
And Thank You, Nancy, that means a lot coming from the mistress of gorgeousnessous.

(Thanks for the comments on FB, too. Congrats on your "needs it or not" task.)
maddle
Sep 30 2009, 10:36 AM
I love it ! Bravo !! very "café montmartre" !! when i was a kid (still i am) i use to watch this programme nemed "Histoire sans parole" means story without words, i m sure it can inspire you ! that is the generic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElQyiM_QeYY
Rodney
Oct 1 2009, 12:48 PM
Wow Myron. This is great stuff.
Looking Good!
Shelton
Oct 1 2009, 12:54 PM
Myron
Very nice. I was looking to do something like this on the opening credits with Cupid. Excellent work
Steve
Paul Forwood
Oct 1 2009, 01:25 PM
Cool stuff, Myron! Looks like you've got yourself a jewellery business.
You guy's are probably getting tired of these, but just a couple more. I'll try not to be too much of a nuisance.
TheSpleen
Oct 4 2009, 03:52 PM
I like the right one best.
And nothing AM is a nuisance lol
It is amazing what all can be done as you are showing us.
largento
Oct 4 2009, 04:05 PM
I think these are really cool-looking, Myron!
Art Nouveau derived from following organic flows and forms found in nature. I've been playing with a style of graphic art that I used to do by hand many, many years ago. Don't know why mushrooms fascinated me so, but I was drawing these years before I found out that mushrooms were desired for more that just their beauty.
I went through the Sweepers tutorial yesterday, wow, what a tool! Will save me hours of modeling time.
This image is a WIP, there's one more cluster and some accents to go, but it's starting to shape up.
NancyGormezano
Oct 9 2009, 04:44 PM
Fabulous stuff!
I love your Art Nouveau style -
Thanks Nancy,
That means a lot, coming from you.
robcat2075
Oct 10 2009, 12:53 AM
lovely 'shrooms!
itsjustme
Oct 10 2009, 01:32 AM
These are all great, Myron!
MJL
Oct 10 2009, 02:41 AM
thankd You David and Rob,
Tried to finish up tonight, but I got the nods. Just a few polishing up details left. I 'll finish it up tomorrow.
MJL
Oct 10 2009, 02:54 PM
Finished, for now, will revisit and refine, after some time passes. I'm happy with the general concept, but still need lots of tweaking to get it where I want it to go. I still can't decide which background looks best on this one.
TheSpleen
Oct 10 2009, 03:38 PM
Wow Myron, that looks great!
NancyGormezano
Oct 10 2009, 07:43 PM
QUOTE(MJL @ Oct 10 2009, 03:54 PM)

I still can't decide which background looks best on this one.
If you want to keep the art nouveau look - then the black background is the way to go. The white has a more tooney feel. The blue is bleh. A different blue (more turquoisey, more vibrant, maybe with a green-turquoise gradient) might work, if you are wanting something "naturalish but still arty".
And then of course - you might try a coppery, or a regal red, or a deep purple or a deep rich forest green background - or variations that include gradients of those colors if you want high impact.
TheSpleen
Oct 10 2009, 11:13 PM
He's making tea I think.
explains alot really.
Shelton
Oct 11 2009, 12:07 AM
Wow nice job Myron. I love the look of the black background the best.
Steve
MJL
Oct 11 2009, 12:23 AM
Thanks, Shelton. I like the black, too, usually it pops the image out, but this time it seemed to pull it back in for some reason.
Ok, I'll blame all these on Nancy. But this tea is really quite good. Would you care for a cup, Gene? Ms Gormezano?
I know, I know, I'm getting sick of this one too (maybe it's the tea), last ones I promise. But it is amazing how the background color affects the image. Of them all, the neutral Taupe one seems to me to strike the right balance.
steve392
Oct 11 2009, 01:41 AM
I like the Orange one best but the Green and Taupe a good second,Just my opinion
NancyGormezano
Oct 11 2009, 11:38 AM
Hmmmm...I hope you don't mind - but I couldn't resist.
It's not clear how your mushers will be used on your web site: full page? added as accents only ? with text ?, other imagery?
So I played - assuming it's a background for a page with some text. Hope this is food for thought when you come back to this.
I liked the black & grey/taupe backgrounds to start (I used grey) - here's what adding color does (deeper, richer, more complex mixtures).
Color always plays on feel rather than logic.
MJL
Oct 11 2009, 06:26 PM
Wow, Nancy, great stuff.
Making the mushroom image was actually the goal in itself. It was the electronic version of some art pencil sketching I did many years ago. I just wanted to see if I could reproduce it now that I'm starting to get a handle on modeling. It came out much better that I had hoped.
I wasn't necessarily going to use it on the website per se, but now I may have to find a place for it somewhere.
I've gone back and finished up this image to be closer to the original vision I started with. It has been a learning experience working with materials and bumpmaps (TURN MULTIPASS ON!) I think other versions of the vase will reappear in other imagery. I like the Raku feel.
EDIT: Here is the model if anyone would like to use it.
NancyGormezano
Feb 5 2010, 02:42 PM
I love the raku feel as well and design of the vase - beautiful!
And I love the flourishy organic thingies poouring out of the vase - wonderful!
But my feeling is that the neon green flat coloring and look of the "ribbons" doesn't match the coloring, 3D dimensionality of the jar.
Perhaps a more unsaturated copper tarnish or antique gold or malachite or brushed tarnished silver for the ribbons (if you want contrast with the jar) might look good?
Or even making jar & ribbons same material?
Love the designs.
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