Eric2575
Jun 24 2009, 09:10 AM
The original Nautilus I modeled was one of my first models I did in AM. This one is a new version I am working on that will be used to make a 4 foot scale model.
agep
Jun 24 2009, 09:23 AM
Very nice work Eric, great details. And now for the inevitable question. Can you please show us the wireframe?

I am curious of how you solved some of the details
steve392
Jun 24 2009, 09:24 AM
Nice detail ,even got the rivets on the porthole,very nice
HomeSlice
Jun 24 2009, 09:48 AM
Beautiful model.
largento
Jun 24 2009, 09:59 AM
Nice job, Eric! Wonderful detail!
robcat2075
Jun 24 2009, 10:15 AM
Looks great.
I've often thought that Disney movie is the first "steam punk" film but I never hear it get mentioned in that regard.
Zaryin
Jun 24 2009, 10:26 AM
Wow, that is looking beautiful so far. Are you going to texture it as well?
itsjustme
Jun 24 2009, 11:45 AM
Very cool model, Eric!
John Bigboote
Jun 24 2009, 11:55 AM
4 foot model? SWEET! You forget to mention 'radio-controlled'...
Eric2575
Jun 24 2009, 12:07 PM
Thanks for the comments. Here is a wireframe with disclaimer: The hull is sectioned into that many patches for a reason - this was modeled after a detailed scale plan I drew, that will be used in the physical construction of the model. Since this will be a real model with real bulkheads, I decided to model them in CG also. There is a separate model of only the bulkheads in all their glory. One more thing, the ram is left over from the old model as can be seen by the great number of splines to make that little thing. It will be changed too.
Stian, I feel that this wireframe is a bit large and too general. If you want detail shots of any section, just let me know.
Finally, I included a design study of what the sub would look like if constructed out of brass wire - see pic below.
Eric
Eric2575
Jun 24 2009, 12:08 PM
John:
The first iteration will not be radio controlled since I will construct it out of metal. To be specific, brass.
agep
Jun 24 2009, 12:22 PM
Thanks Eric. The wireframe you uploaded is more than enough. Very nice and clean wire. The brass render is awesome! If you plan on making a real version of it, please make an thread about it. It would be fun to watch the process
pixelplucker
Jun 24 2009, 06:17 PM
Sweet! I actually have blueprints to that somewheres, never had the extra time to model it.
Great Job!
TheSpleen
Jun 24 2009, 06:21 PM
wonderful details! I am impressed.
I am considering making the 1966 Batmobile from the TV show.
But my skills tell me no LOL
robcat2075
Jun 24 2009, 06:26 PM
I wonder what the intended function of that little bit of rotini pasta at the bottom is?
Eric2575
Jun 24 2009, 09:28 PM
That piece of pasta is called the speed screw. Sorta like a speed indicator on an airplane, except under water
Tralfaz
Jun 25 2009, 03:35 AM
Really nice job on the Nautilus Eric.
I have a book on Special F/X from Starlog Magazine. It has the blueprints to the Nautilus from the Disney movie. It has cross-sections diagrams and photos. If you are interested, I see if I can dig up the book and can scan them for you.
Al
Gerry
Jun 25 2009, 06:34 AM
That's a beauty of a model, Eric!
Nice work for a "contributor"!
Eric2575
Jun 25 2009, 11:31 AM
Tralfaz, I would love to get a copy of those. The higher rez the better. Do you Skype?
Gerry, us "Contributors" have got to stick together, although I might soon be demoted to waterboy
Tralfaz
Jun 25 2009, 07:41 PM
Hi Eric,
Here are the scanned images from the book I mentioned. It has the blue prints with cross sections, some photos of the Nautilus under construction, and a couple of finished photos.
Sorry, I don't Skype. Seems like the older I get, the less I like technology! (This view on life doesn't fit in well with my profession of being a computer programmer...

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Al
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Eric2575
Jun 25 2009, 08:16 PM
This is great stuff Al. Thank you so much
Eric
williamgaylord
Jun 25 2009, 10:09 PM
Eric, I happened upon this web site that might interest you:
The SubCommitteeI was looking for pictures of this 18' "manned" model of the Nautilus:
Pat Regan's NautilusNot as authentic a replica of the Disney Nautilus as your model, though (the pasta bit is missing). And the interior is not what I would call "lavish".

I'll be really interested in how you fabricate the brass model when you do.
Eric2575
Jun 25 2009, 11:50 PM
Bill:
I have perused both of those sites in my research of this model. But thank you anyway. You never know what I might have missed.
I wonder if I could start a build thread under Special topics if I make sure there are plenty of references to my Nautilus model?
Here is a render of the Nautilus lifeboat also known as the Skiff.
HomeSlice
Jun 26 2009, 11:36 AM
Wow Eric. Those models are just gorgeous.
Eric2575
Jun 26 2009, 12:10 PM
Just like your avatar

Thank you
Eric2575
Jun 28 2009, 07:51 PM
Update:
The prop is completely remodeled to be much more accurate, modeled the stairwell leading into the Nautilus, detailed more of the deck and reworked the side fins among many other things.
TheSpleen
Jun 28 2009, 09:15 PM
Marvelous!
The detail work is amazing.
Zaryin
Jun 28 2009, 09:16 PM
That is totally impressive. I need a patch count and render time

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Eric2575
Jun 28 2009, 09:24 PM
I'll get both for you, but remember I am modeling to make this a real object, so I am not too worried about patch count.
Eric2575
Jun 28 2009, 09:36 PM
This is somewhat unusual, but the total patch count right now is exactly 17,000 - no kidding. I'm surprised by the even number.
I'll re-render the larger view of the Nautilus since I have made several changes and then I'll see what the time to render will be. I am using 30% AO with 16 passes and one key light. Will post once completed.
Rodney
Jun 28 2009, 09:58 PM
Wow. I'm impressed by your patience.
There is some serious detail there.
Looking great Eric!
Eric2575
Jun 29 2009, 12:49 AM
The patch count is actually 14530. Once I started the render, I noticed some artifacts and re-examined the model. There were some duplicate splines that I missed when I did a copy paste operation of the lower hull details.
The total time to render with 16 pass AO at 30% with one key light at a size of 1920 x 1200 is 51 minutes. Again, I'm not worried about time or patch count since I am trying to get a very accurate and detailed version of the Nautilus. Note the working Skiff (lifeboat) covers.
Tralfaz
Jun 29 2009, 03:38 AM
Holy crap on a cracker!!
Gorgeous model you've got there. Good looking render that brings out the fantastic details in the model.
Al
Eric2575
Jun 29 2009, 11:15 AM
I'm happy to leave you with a bit more mundane imagery than you are leaving for me, Al
TNT
Jun 29 2009, 12:49 PM
BEAUTIFUL model!
Eric2575
Jul 18 2009, 10:32 PM
Some more details as I refine things
Zaryin
Jul 19 2009, 12:11 AM
The detail is incredible. Excellent job! NURNIES!!!
TheSpleen
Jul 19 2009, 01:14 AM
Wow
itsjustme
Jul 19 2009, 02:46 AM
Looks fantastic, Eric!
pixelplucker
Jul 19 2009, 07:41 AM
Amazing model but I have one question..
The pipes on the bottom supposed to have flat hexagognal sides?
I used the the sweeper for pipes and seems to work best from top view projection. Also helps if you add an extra segments slightly offset so the inside profile doesn't overlap.
Eric2575
Jul 19 2009, 09:36 AM
First of all, thank you for all the great comments, it makes it all worthwhile.
In short, yes, the pipes are just as they are supposed to be according to all the Disney plans, straight and hexagonal. That's good tip though on working with sweeper and a nice diagram to boot
I've started on a revised rivet pattern and am having a bit of trouble. When I do a quick render in the modeling window, the displacement map for the rivets comes out great. When I do an actual render with AO, the part that has the displacement map has grainy artifacts all over it. Before I post the problem, I'm going to experiment a bit and try to figure this out. Probably something to do with the jpg.
Eric
pixelplucker
Jul 19 2009, 09:49 AM
Try bump mapping? little things like that might work better as a bump. I was making some mug models that had complex raised scroll work and someone here suggested bump map instead of displace and it does work better in many cases. I don't think you can use the bake option with displacements either so keep that in mind.
Someday I'll be cool and have 15f for my cd release... someday.....
agep
Jul 19 2009, 10:23 AM
QUOTE(Eric2575 @ Jul 19 2009, 07:36 PM)

Probably something to do with the jpg
Don't use jpg's, they have compression artifacts that displacement map doesn't like. Use Targa.
Nice update by the way
Eric2575
Jul 19 2009, 10:29 AM
Bump mapping is an option I will consider, but I would still like to know if displacement maps and AO don't mix. I even tried a plain 128,128,128 gray jpg as a displacement map - it should not have done anything to the mesh - and it came out the same as all the other tests, major artifacts.
Eric2575
Jul 19 2009, 10:30 AM
I'll give that a try Stian
Eric2575
Jul 19 2009, 10:39 AM
It's gonna take a bit because I am rendering with bump right now and it's looking pretty good. I already took the bump map and converted it to a tga file. That will be the next render as a displacement.
Eric2575
Jul 19 2009, 10:44 AM
My edit post function doesn't work, that's why all the new posts. Here is the partial bump render. The rivets are just a bit too small, but this will suffice for the test. Next up the displacement render with the TGA.
Eric2575
Jul 19 2009, 10:56 AM
I'm at a loss right now. No difference when using tga. I also tried it on a simple one patch plane and it was the same. Normals are pointing out as they should.
Eric2575
Jul 19 2009, 11:05 AM
Well, if anyone can repeat a simple test using a displacement decal with AO that doesn't cause any artifacts, I'd sure like to see it. The project file with included decal would be nice.
agep
Jul 19 2009, 11:21 AM
Can you upload the displacementmap used on the last render? I would like to inspect it
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