I know I said the short deadline to complete the first half of the movie was motivated by burnout ... and maybe that was sort of true in a broader sense ... but the real reason for the short deadline was because I thought I was going to have to pack up and move back to my "cave" really, really soon. The "cave" has no electricity or running water and it is about 40 miles from the nearest grocery store. I think its a wonderful place, but working on SO from there would have been out of the question.

But I finally found a little work, so now I can stay around and continue to work on SO, which I'm very happy about Anyone and everyone is welcome to contribute to the characters , sets, textures, rigging and animation that will be needed for the second half of the movie. I will be happily working away, even if I'm the only one. I think SO is shaping up to be a very nice animated movie.

I can do some some modeling if it is not organic.
I do pretty good on objects.

Outstanding news Holmes!

Good to hear you'll be around Holmes.

I'll be polishing off the last shots of the first half and raring to go on the second. Can't wait to animate witchy!

Hey Spleen,
Please send an email to project.scarecrow@gmail.com with:
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Next up on the agenda is to create Jinxland village. This will consist of several models, so if you want to start on a building, please do so. Post images of your progress in a new thread (which you create) in the SO Modeling forum. Name the thread "Jinxland Village - name of model" where "name of model" is the name of your model, for example "fruit stand" "house" "shoe store" or whatever you want to make.

The style should be a blend of (middle eastern architecture/old Russian architecture such as the Kremlin)/east Indian architecture) and (western architecture). For example, you may want make a small Tudor style building with onion domes. Here is an example of a small cottage you may want to start with, but give it some eastern flair.
http://www.matlockminiatures.com/

Or maybe you want to make a tiny Greek temple, but with a roof like this:
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Here are a couple images Martin posted awhile ago.
http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?s=&am...st&p=278267

I have soon finished school for this semester and have some time off, it has been some very busy times. I would be happy to do some work for SO again instead

Ulrika

Holmes, from what I have seen, everyone should be proud of the wonderful accomplishments with S.O. (and T.W.O as well). They really are gorgeous to look at.

What is the status of 2_03_02? Would I be able to work on it as my shecule permits until you have the rest of the movie done?

Congrats on finding work Holmes

Great Ulrika,
We need to build some sets and rig some characters first. I'll let you know when there is something ready for animation.


Thanks Bruce. LOVE the avatar, by the way.
Ya know .......... you too could be immortalized in the credits of this upcoming cult phenomenon. All you have to do is animate one or two teensy 1-2 minute scenes when they are ready. Since you work fast and furious, it should take you no time at all !


Thanks Mark. 2_03_02 has been rendered and Angelo has it cued up for foley. HOWEVER, if you want to open it back up and change the stuff I did, please go ahead. When you are finished, I will re-render it with your changes. There is a caveat though, Angelo is working on the foley for that scene, so there may need to be some slight adjustments when you are done so your work matches the sound effects. If you don't do anything drastic to the timing, it should be OK.
You can see what has been done so far here:
http://www.holmesbryant.com/files/video/scarecrow_of_oz/

will do Holmes

I see you took some of the dialog out for SC and what I see here looks good and it was that excessive dialog that had me planning alot of interaction with some props to maintain the audiences attention. Without that long dialog the plans I had are no longer required so I think we can call this done. I contact you when I catch up on my school work and maybe another scene would be better.

Seeing as how S.O. is going to be finished, is there a possibility that Greed nor Bubbling Goo might make it into the movie?

If someone animates them, I imagine they will probably make it into the movie. Martin is a big fan of songs, so I'm sure he will push to have any completed songs included in the final release. He did that with TWO as well, even though the general feedback seemed somewhat less than overwhelmingly positive.
If there is time and energy left after everything else is done, I may try my hand at one or two songs, but that won't be anytime soon.

It seems that maybe a song is even more challenging to pull off than a normal shot. I haven't done any kind of exhaustive study on songs within animated movies, but my impression is that the animation within the song must be poignant and relevant while also communicating a well defined message (like any animation), but unlike a normal shot, it must also stand on its own, tell a complete story within its own right, in addition to enhancing or clarifying the overall story within which it is contained. Otherwise, it seems to turn into gratuitous "fluff".

I really like the Yoop song from TWO, even though I guess it turned off some people. For me, it stands on its own, by itself. The song rounds out Mrs. Yoop. It tells people that her husband has been imprisoned and that she is dreadfully lonely (and insane) as a result - and that is why she is so fixated on turning the protagonists into playthings to keep her amused during her long lonely hours cooped up in the castle. The actions for the most part are deliberate, relevant and even add to Yoop's character development. As a result, I think the song conveys a well defined message by itself and also enhances the overall story.

The "We're Off We're Gone" song has similar qualities. It is almost an indispensable part of the movie. Unfortunately, its scope kept expanding and it turned into one of those hallways that keeps getting longer no matter how fast you run.

Some of the other TWO songs didn't seem to be quite as successful. They seemed to me to be just a bunch of random motion to fill the time.

Thanks for the reply, Holmes. I hope someone get's an inspiration to take one of these on, it's the only way I felt I had any viable contribution to the film. (Plus the "Ham" in me wants to see my name roll by in the credits. )

Hey Holmes ...

Thanks for the comment about my avatar. It looks like we both have something in common. I think the big difference is our reference materials. You have a hot babe to get ideas from where I only have fat guy in his underwear! (okay, the fat guy is actually me)

Thanks also for the invite to help with S.0. Honestly if they would pass a bill allowing for another 36 hours in a day ... I would be honored. Right now though I have my hands full with another project. Maybe if I can find some time later on it might be possible?

Again, great job with everything so far!

Bruce (fat guy in his underwear)

Myron, you and Chris Daily will make it into the credits, probably as "Music Composition and Engineering". If you don't see your names in the next version of the credits, whenever that happens, be sure to let me know!

Also, unless we can find someone to create a full score for the movie, I was thinking we would take the songs that have already been written, create some looping tracks from them, and string them together to create some background music. Angelo expressed an interest in composing a few music score type pieces, so maybe Angelo can fill in the gaps.

As they say, "Necessity is the mother of invention" ... or is it "Necessity is a Mother" ... can't remember which

Holmes,

Have the Pessim shots been cut or are they still in? If in, how much time do I have to finish them?

George

George, whether or not the Pessim scenes make it into the movie is up to you. If you animate them and do whatever needs to be done to finish the set, I will render them and put them in. I estimate another 8 to 12 months before we finish the second half of the movie, though it would be nice to have Pessim done some time in the near future.