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kwhitaker
This is where, witch Lena is determined
to take Elderwood Forest as her own. i used Acid music, for my back groud music. animation with sound
mtpeak2
Pretty cool.

Some of the scenes with the witch need something though. Maybe a starry sky in the background, even the scenes with the moon.
kwhitaker
QUOTE(mtpeak2 @ Aug 30 2008, 07:09 PM) *
Pretty cool.

Some of the scenes with the witch need something though. Maybe a starry sky in the background, even the scenes with the moon.

dry.gif hum... i think that would add some nice sparklel , i'll add some. never having made stars, is it best to just model them or is there some other way? i was lookng at your new Squetch rig, it looks so good. is anyone able to use it, or just for too, i would love to learn it. Thanks for the good suggestion Katt
mtpeak2
You can use an image decalled to flat plane (single patch like the default ground plane) and position it behind the set so it's in view in the camera. Or you can add a new layer in the chor and apply the image to it. You could also apply it to a dome, so any camera angle can see it.

The Squetch rig is David Simmons' (itsjustme) creation, I only helped some. The Squetch rig is downloadable for anyone to use, but it's alot more difficult to install than TSM2 or 2001 rig. There is a Squetchy Sam model with the rig installed already to use, downloadable from the Squetch rig download thread.

I was working on the 2008 rig, I'm not quite finished yet and I don't have an installation method for it yet. There is a Thom model downloadable with the rig installed, minus the face controls, in the 2008 rig thread. I haven't worked on it for awhile now, didn't think too many people were interested, so the motivation level dropped on finishing it (lost interest). I was in the middle of working on the face controls and that's where it sits. With alot of people using TSM2, there's no real need for another rig that no one is going to use. So who knows if I'll ever finish it or not.
KenH
This is quite a feat you're pulling off Katt. Nice work and you should be proud of yourself no matter what's said. In this clip I especially love the demon and voice even though he's not in it long.

Some things confuse me though:

1) The change to the sword.....it could be clearer. The sword is always there but the boy flashes in the background. Maybe he should disappear when the sword appears so the audience can make the connection that he is the sword. This is such a crucial plot line that there should be no doubts.

2) When the witch appears, I think the camera angle needs to be different. Maybe a long shot so we see her come into shot and that the wizard is surprised by her sudden entrance. At the moment, it's just a cut. For all we know, the witch could be somewhere else. I appreciate the fact that I know what happens now is proof that people will work it out. But I think you could milk the moment more.

3) How does the witch know to beware of a demon specifically? The wizard doesn't say. If the wizard "congers up" the demon, it would be nice to see that. Otherwise, the demon could have strolled into shot from a walk in the woods and the wizard is wanting the witch to watch out for it. wink.gif
Or maybe the demon is there with the witch? It's hard to tell from a short clip I guess.

4) What exactly is Trell doing when the witch appears? It appears he reaches for something, but it's too short to tell.

5) A small thing....in the beginning, when the witch says "Find the wizard broom"....her face is in it's default state all the time. I understand the camera cuts don't show her when she's talking but she would be scowling or something as she says it. It feels like a narration at the moment.

And yes, some stars in the background will allow people to get perspective. Right now, it could be either the camera or witch moving.
Finally, when the wizard says the word "astute" his left arm snaps from IK to FK positions. It's at the start of a cut for one frame so easy to miss.
kwhitaker
QUOTE(mtpeak2 @ Aug 30 2008, 09:12 PM) *
You can use an image decalled to flat plane (single patch like the default ground plane) and position it behind the set so it's in view in the camera. Or you can add a new layer in the chor and apply the image to it. You could also apply it to a dome, so any camera angle can see it.

The Squetch rig is David Simmons' (itsjustme) creation, I only helped some. The Squetch rig is downloadable for anyone to use, but it's alot more difficult to install than TSM2 or 2001 rig. There is a Squetchy Sam model with the rig installed already to use, downloadable from the Squetch rig download thread.

I was working on the 2008 rig, I'm not quite finished yet and I don't have an installation method for it yet. There is a Thom model downloadable with the rig installed, minus the face controls, in the 2008 rig thread. I haven't worked on it for awhile now, didn't think too many people were interested, so the motivation level dropped on finishing it (lost interest). I was in the middle of working on the face controls and that's where it sits. With alot of people using TSM2, there's no real need for another rig that no one is going to use. So who knows if I'll ever finish it or not.

Ya know, I never thought about adding a decal to the ground plane. what is a dome? is there a best light to use with a layer, I always have trouble with the lighting reflecting in the layer. I down download tutorials for the installation. looks like a lot of work. so much technical knowledge to create a rig, is beyond me, i'm sure glad you guys do it though. thanks for you help. happy.gif
mtpeak2
Here's what a dome is (hemisphere). It has a star decal, but it's hard to see from this image.

It's best to set background layers to flat shaded in its properties.

kwhitaker
QUOTE(KenH @ Aug 31 2008, 04:11 AM) *
This is quite a feat you're pulling off Katt. Nice work and you should be proud of yourself no matter what's said. In this clip I especially love the demon and voice even though he's not in it long.

Some things confuse me though:

1) The change to the sword.....it could be clearer. The sword is always there but the boy flashes in the background. Maybe he should disappear when the sword appears so the audience can make the connection that he is the sword. This is such a crucial plot line that there should be no doubts.

2) When the witch appears, I think the camera angle needs to be different. Maybe a long shot so we see her come into shot and that the wizard is surprised by her sudden entrance. At the moment, it's just a cut. For all we know, the witch could be somewhere else. I appreciate the fact that I know what happens now is proof that people will work it out. But I think you could milk the moment more.

3) How does the witch know to beware of a demon specifically? The wizard doesn't say. If the wizard "congers up" the demon, it would be nice to see that. Otherwise, the demon could have strolled into shot from a walk in the woods and the wizard is wanting the witch to watch out for it. wink.gif
Or maybe the demon is there with the witch? It's hard to tell from a short clip I guess.

4) What exactly is Trell doing when the witch appears? It appears he reaches for something, but it's too short to tell.

5) A small thing....in the beginning, when the witch says "Find the wizard broom"....her face is in it's default state all the time. I understand the camera cuts don't show her when she's talking but she would be scowling or something as she says it. It feels like a narration at the moment.

And yes, some stars in the background will allow people to get perspective. Right now, it could be either the camera or witch moving.
Finally, when the wizard says the word "astute" his left arm snaps from IK to FK positions. It's at the start of a cut for one frame so easy to miss.

Your right, when Trell flashes into the sword is a very important part, after looking at the scene again I see what you mean, he dose flash out, but... maybe showing just the sword longer, with out Trell in the scene would do it.

I have that scene of the witch, as she comes in with the wizard and the elf, but I cut it out, when I added the voices. As Lena said "this forest well be mine" the wizard said "what". I didn't want the wizard to have time the use his magic against the witch before she changed Trell into the sword.. that's why I went right to Trell who draws his sword. maybe I'll re-think that as well ,

As far a the demon, all that is explained in the next movie segment.

I could add or redo when the witch said " Find the wizard broom".... it will be more interesting and help in building her character.

I've looked for this, his left arm snaps from IK to FK positions. I'll have to look again. you and Mark have giving me a lot to work out, as always thank for your input. smile.gif
kwhitaker
QUOTE(mtpeak2 @ Aug 31 2008, 06:49 AM) *
Here's what a dome is (hemisphere). It has a star decal, but it's hard to see from this image.

It's best to set background layers to flat shaded in its properties.

thank you Mark smile.gif
Wiskey
There is tremendous promise in these clips.

Hopefully, with the feedback you're getting here you can experiment with other camera angles & cuts on future clips.
kwhitaker
QUOTE(Wiskey @ Sep 2 2008, 03:42 PM) *
There is tremendous promise in these clips.

Hopefully, with the feedback you're getting here you can experiment with other camera angles & cuts on future clips.

thank you, Wiskey, I've had some really good advice, which I'm working on now. it's always good to get feed back smile.gif Katt
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