So, has anyone been working on an export function for XAML/Silverlight?
Just curious...
Tim
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Considering Silverlight it is so new that the "new car smell" has barely faded, and it has not had much time to gain market share worth speaking of... it would be a bit premature to consider an export for this in AM of all things. Look how long it took (years) before someone created SWF export for AM. MS is positioning Silverlight to complete with Flash and Ajax but what I've heard from early reports is that it has a ways to go before becoming a Flash killer.
Quite frankly focusing more development and content development on HA:MR or improving the current A:M SWF export would make more sense. If you do need Silverlight support you may want to fund the development yourself. Work out a deal with whoever developed the SWF export. I can't imagine that the two technologies are so vastly different.
I wouldn't touch Silverlight with a ten foot pole till it's been around a bit longer. It might be a total and complete waste of time... or it might not... who knows this early in the game. And as far as I know there are no development tools for the Mac or any planned so that cuts out a significant group of content creators. There have been many new technologies over the years that never panned out. And someone always wanted an A:M "plugin" to support them 5 mintues after they were announced
. I would give it a long wait before getting your hopes up.
If someone is already working on a Silverlight exporter then please disregard these comments. I really don't have a clue.
-vern
Quite frankly focusing more development and content development on HA:MR or improving the current A:M SWF export would make more sense. If you do need Silverlight support you may want to fund the development yourself. Work out a deal with whoever developed the SWF export. I can't imagine that the two technologies are so vastly different.
I wouldn't touch Silverlight with a ten foot pole till it's been around a bit longer. It might be a total and complete waste of time... or it might not... who knows this early in the game. And as far as I know there are no development tools for the Mac or any planned so that cuts out a significant group of content creators. There have been many new technologies over the years that never panned out. And someone always wanted an A:M "plugin" to support them 5 mintues after they were announced
. I would give it a long wait before getting your hopes up.If someone is already working on a Silverlight exporter then please disregard these comments. I really don't have a clue.
-vern
Thanks Vern,
While I agree that with Silverlight, there is an "air" about it that says "wait", as far as I can see, that is only because it is in Alpha (Not talking about 1.0, which is quite useless in most development instances, of course).
But, what is more directly related to what I am wondering has to do with XAML - not Silverlight, perse. XAML is definately not going anywhere adn will be around for the near to distant future adn well worth knowing. Of course, the XAML could be used in Silverlight or WPF or Moonlight, etc. I certainly don't know who would call silverlight a flash killer.. (maybe 1.0?), but I see Flash as a great way to display adds and small gadgets and I see silverlight as creating Rich Applications within the browser... at least from all that I have coded in it.
Anyway - this SWF export interests me as well as the development of the HA:MR - has anything been worked on with regard to HA:MR?
Thanks,
Tim
While I agree that with Silverlight, there is an "air" about it that says "wait", as far as I can see, that is only because it is in Alpha (Not talking about 1.0, which is quite useless in most development instances, of course).
But, what is more directly related to what I am wondering has to do with XAML - not Silverlight, perse. XAML is definately not going anywhere adn will be around for the near to distant future adn well worth knowing. Of course, the XAML could be used in Silverlight or WPF or Moonlight, etc. I certainly don't know who would call silverlight a flash killer.. (maybe 1.0?), but I see Flash as a great way to display adds and small gadgets and I see silverlight as creating Rich Applications within the browser... at least from all that I have coded in it.
Anyway - this SWF export interests me as well as the development of the HA:MR - has anything been worked on with regard to HA:MR?
Thanks,
Tim
QUOTE(heyvern @ Oct 27 2007, 12:39 AM) 
Considering Silverlight it is so new that the "new car smell" has barely faded, and it has not had much time to gain market share worth speaking of... it would be a bit premature to consider an export for this in AM of all things. Look how long it took (years) before someone created SWF export for AM. MS is positioning Silverlight to complete with Flash and Ajax but what I've heard from early reports is that it has a ways to go before becoming a Flash killer.
Quite frankly focusing more development and content development on HA:MR or improving the current A:M SWF export would make more sense. If you do need Silverlight support you may want to fund the development yourself. Work out a deal with whoever developed the SWF export. I can't imagine that the two technologies are so vastly different.
I wouldn't touch Silverlight with a ten foot pole till it's been around a bit longer. It might be a total and complete waste of time... or it might not... who knows this early in the game. And as far as I know there are no development tools for the Mac or any planned so that cuts out a significant group of content creators. There have been many new technologies over the years that never panned out. And someone always wanted an A:M "plugin" to support them 5 mintues after they were announced. I would give it a long wait before getting your hopes up.
If someone is already working on a Silverlight exporter then please disregard these comments. I really don't have a clue.
-vern
Quite frankly focusing more development and content development on HA:MR or improving the current A:M SWF export would make more sense. If you do need Silverlight support you may want to fund the development yourself. Work out a deal with whoever developed the SWF export. I can't imagine that the two technologies are so vastly different.
I wouldn't touch Silverlight with a ten foot pole till it's been around a bit longer. It might be a total and complete waste of time... or it might not... who knows this early in the game. And as far as I know there are no development tools for the Mac or any planned so that cuts out a significant group of content creators. There have been many new technologies over the years that never panned out. And someone always wanted an A:M "plugin" to support them 5 mintues after they were announced
. I would give it a long wait before getting your hopes up.If someone is already working on a Silverlight exporter then please disregard these comments. I really don't have a clue.
-vern
HA:MR had/has some great potential. Unfortunately I stopped keeping up with it a while back when I went off on some tangent to work on different things. I still think it was pretty freaking cool and could be a great thing on the internet. I don't know at what point they are at in the development. There was talk of adding in more programming access through HTML. I wrote a couple of case studies or... whatever they are called... for implementing extra JS features in the AM file format for HAMR... things like basic collision detection and user activated actions based on key commands.
The last thing I created was a bear that runs through a maze and goes through doors. It was not interactive but simulated the game interface "potential" run entirely from a single AM file. The last thing I heard was there was some talk of a Mac version. That is part of what caused me to lose some interest. It was too much trouble for me to switch machines to play with HAMR. I needed the Mac version of the browser plugin.
-vern
The last thing I created was a bear that runs through a maze and goes through doors. It was not interactive but simulated the game interface "potential" run entirely from a single AM file. The last thing I heard was there was some talk of a Mac version. That is part of what caused me to lose some interest. It was too much trouble for me to switch machines to play with HAMR. I needed the Mac version of the browser plugin.
-vern
QUOTE(heyvern @ Oct 31 2007, 07:21 PM)
HA:MR had/has some great potential. Unfortunately I stopped keeping up with it a while back when I went off on some tangent to work on different things. I still think it was pretty freaking cool and could be a great thing on the internet. I don't know at what point they are at in the development. There was talk of adding in more programming access through HTML. I wrote a couple of case studies or... whatever they are called... for implementing extra JS features in the AM file format for HAMR... things like basic collision detection and user activated actions based on key commands.
The last thing I created was a bear that runs through a maze and goes through doors. It was not interactive but simulated the game interface "potential" run entirely from a single AM file. The last thing I heard was there was some talk of a Mac version. That is part of what caused me to lose some interest. It was too much trouble for me to switch machines to play with HAMR. I needed the Mac version of the browser plugin.
-vern
The last thing I created was a bear that runs through a maze and goes through doors. It was not interactive but simulated the game interface "potential" run entirely from a single AM file. The last thing I heard was there was some talk of a Mac version. That is part of what caused me to lose some interest. It was too much trouble for me to switch machines to play with HAMR. I needed the Mac version of the browser plugin.
-vern
Some time ago, martin said that a mozilla-compatible version was near to complete and they wanted to implement a more interactive version of hamr with some kind of programmable interface.
But since some time I didnt hear anything new about hamr.
See this link for more infos:
HAMR-Webseite
HAMR-Forum
*Fuchur*
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