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Simon Edmondson
A curious problem...
I'm not sure I'm asking this in the right place but, here goes...

Working in V13 ( the one with the TWO image on the CD I have a simple choreography set up of a flat matte with a figure on it.
The problem is that the shadows do not render in the camera view but, they do render in the top view ?
I've tried looking at the settings for the two lights involved, the camera and the two models but nothing seems to effect the problem.

The light is casting a shadow ( one is turned off ) the Matte is set to receive a shadow, the figure is set to cast a shadow and the render options are set to render the shadow. The shadow will appear in the top view of the choreo but the camera view ( although almost identical to the top view ) will not render with a shadow.

I've tried Quick render - no joy,
I've tried rendering to Targa sequence - no joy
but
If I do either of the above in top view it appears....
Does anyone have any helpful suggestions as its getting rather frustrating. I've tried cutting and pasting in photoshop but that will take forever so, Id prefer to learn where my mistake is ?

regards
simon

Apologies if I am asking in the wrong place.
rusty
QUOTE(Simon Edmondson @ Oct 13 2007, 10:39 AM) *
A curious problem...
I'm not sure I'm asking this in the right place but, here goes...

Working in V13 ( the one with the TWO image on the CD I have a simple choreography set up of a flat matte with a figure on it.
The problem is that the shadows do not render in the camera view but, they do render in the top view ?
I've tried looking at the settings for the two lights involved, the camera and the two models but nothing seems to effect the problem.

The light is casting a shadow ( one is turned off ) the Matte is set to receive a shadow, the figure is set to cast a shadow and the render options are set to render the shadow. The shadow will appear in the top view of the choreo but the camera view ( although almost identical to the top view ) will not render with a shadow.

I've tried Quick render - no joy,
I've tried rendering to Targa sequence - no joy
but
If I do either of the above in top view it appears....
Does anyone have any helpful suggestions as its getting rather frustrating. I've tried cutting and pasting in photoshop but that will take forever so, Id prefer to learn where my mistake is ?

regards
simon

Apologies if I am asking in the wrong place.


You have shadows turned off on you camera.

r
Simon Edmondson
>> You have shadows turned off on you camera. <<r
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Rusty

Thank you very much for that I shall have a look tomorrow ( UK time ).
I will blush badly as I thought I'd checked that, oh dear...
regards
simon
Simon Edmondson
You have shadows turned off on you camera.
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Rusty

I tried that and it was not the problem.
I made sure shadows were turned on under objects and under the choreo properties.
All the objects are set to receive and cast shadows,
No object is set to flat shading,
and the problem remains...
The shadow renders in the top view but not in the camera view ?

It is getting a bit frustrating.
regards
simon
NancyGormezano
Can you post the project and/or screen shots ?
Simon Edmondson
QUOTE(NancyGormezano @ Oct 14 2007, 10:44 AM) *
Can you post the project and/or screen shots ?



Nancy
I've stopped for the evening now but, I will try to get the project and screen shots sorted out tomorrow. It will likely be some blush induceingly simple thing but I'll have learned something in the process.
Thank you for your interest.
regards
simon
Simon Edmondson
QUOTE(NancyGormezano @ Oct 14 2007, 10:44 AM) *
Can you post the project and/or screen shots ?


Nancy
I consolidated the project and added two renders, One from the top view and the other from the camera view. I hope it gets there.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
regards
simon

PS
Unfortunately, it would not allow me to upload the action file, or the two .tga files ( is there a way I can do this ? )
Simon Edmondson

The two renders, converted to jpeg.

Don't know what to do about the action file?
regards
simon
NancyGormezano
QUOTE(Simon Edmondson @ Oct 15 2007, 08:08 AM) *
The two renders, converted to jpeg.

Don't know what to do about the action file?
regards
simon


Hi Simon - the best way to upload a project is to create a compressed zip file - put all the assets in the zip file - images, actions, models, chor etc. You can also create a project with embed all. Tho I don't think the images get embedded.

And I am also having trouble interpreting what I'm seeing with your renders - Is the one on the left the render from the camera? and the one on the right the top view render? And what version of A:M are you using? (13s?)

Haven't looked at your project yet - will wait for the action file as I assume it's required?
Simon Edmondson


Hi Simon - the best way to upload a project is to create a compressed zip file - ..

And I am also having trouble interpreting what I'm seeing with your renders - Is the one on the left the render from the camera? and the one on the right the top view render? And what version of A:M are you using? (13s?) [/quote]

Will get onto the zip file after eating.

The one on the left is the camera, no shadows. and the other has a shadow and a large black border and was a render of the top view.

The version used was the one that came on the CD with the TWO figures on the front.

Thanks for your time.
simon
Simon Edmondson
the best way to upload a project is to create a compressed zip file - <<

I hope this works.
Thank You.
Simon
NancyGormezano
Simon - when I render (without toonlines) from your camera view - I get a hint of a shadow - I really believe you are getting a shadow - but the camera angle at which you are rendering causes the stickman to obscure the shadow - if you do small viewpoint turns in the chor and do onscreen renders - you can see the effect as you rotate about
Simon Edmondson
QUOTE(NancyGormezano @ Oct 15 2007, 12:24 PM) *
Simon - when I render (without toonlines) from your camera view - I get a hint of a shadow - I really believe you are getting a shadow - but the camera angle at which you are rendering causes the stickman to obscure the shadow - if you do small viewpoint turns in the chor and do onscreen renders - you can see the effect as you rotate about



Nancy

Thank you for looking. I shall try that out tomorrow ( my animation studio and computer is in the back garden shed... ) I'll also try moving the light so that the angle at which the shadow is cast should make it more apparent.

I had assumed that because the light is aligned with the camera and in the centre of the frame, the top view ( were the shadow is very apparent ) would be the same as the camera view?
Thanks again for your time.
regards
simon
Simon Edmondson
QUOTE(NancyGormezano @ Oct 15 2007, 12:24 PM) *
Simon - when I render (without toonlines) from your camera view - I get a hint of a shadow - I really believe you are getting a shadow - but the camera angle at which you are rendering causes the stickman to obscure the shadow - if you do small viewpoint turns in the chor and do onscreen renders - you can see the effect as you rotate about



Nancy

Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
You were right The shadows were there it was just that the breadth of them was marginal compared to the toon lines. I v'e changed the light angle and the shadows are back to the full Monty now.
Cheers
Simon
( the embarrassed one )
NancyGormezano
QUOTE(Simon Edmondson @ Oct 16 2007, 01:01 PM) *
Simon
( the embarrassed one )


Glad I could help - don't be embarassed - I would have to be tinted permanently scarlet for all the things I've missed.
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