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martin
We're creating the TWO Movie poster for the One Sheet. A typical movie poster would have "Produced By:," "Written By:," "Directed By:," "Music By:," plus the names of the main actors. I'm not sure that's appropriate in a semi-volunteer project like this...

The first line is easy: An A:M Films Production of "Tin Woodman of Oz"

In our case, we should highlight major time and effort contributors rather than actors or management. Who should get their name on this poster, (I have a few names in mind but I'm asking you)? What would be their titles? (Costumes, Lighting, Layout, Story)?
robcat2075
If you named everyone, how many names would it be?
Tralfaz
I know I haven't been involved with TWO, but even if I had been (and wish I had been good enough to participate) my opinion would be the same.

In the case of a movie poster, you can't list every single person who has worked on a film, but what you could do is post the lead of each area. For instance, (I am not sure what official designations you have), you could list Producer, Director, Lighting Supervisor, Music Supervisor, Special F/X Supervisor, etc.

Then in the credits of the movie, you could list all those who were involved in the project and what their respective roles were.

Just a suggestion...
Al
PF_Mark
Maybe ask Robert Taylor if you wants his name down for Antmatics other than that I don't really know If only one person wrote the script or if it was a joint effort? But I would suggest maybe after the main players like you mention adding Created by the AM Community which covers all of us so no one feels left out. Unless you want to make this double sided and list Everone rolleyes.gif
PF_Mark
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2007, 01:35 PM) *
If you named everyone, how many names would it be?


Martin stated once that it there is over a 100? contribitor
martin
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:35 AM) *
If you named everyone, how many names would it be?

Hmmm... What would the cut-off point be? I think we'd have at least 50 that did a scene or a major model and maybe 100 total... But I like the idea. Would we do the same thing for the One Sheet and the poster?

Other ideas?
jzawacki
Not that I really know anything about this kind of thing.. I just googled "movie poster" + the animated movies I could think of.. to see what kind of information they provide. Most only give the the distributor/producers and the major voice talent used and some catchy phrase. Oh, and the "From the creators of --input famous movie plug here, just in case you don't know who we are yet!--".

Seems additional props are only common on the non-animated movies. I wounder why that is. Is it because there are to many people involved to be listed for them as well, or that there could be 3 or 4 people filling a specific role throughout the creation of the movie?
KenH
I think you should just put in the "main jobs" like Producer/Director/Writer etc. There are too many others and someone is always gong to be left out. If they want to know the other names, they can look at the movie credits/website/forum.
Maybe a sepcial page could be put on the Wiki (I think there already is) with all the names and just put a link to it.
martin
I agree that everyone needs to be listed in the movie's credits.

Why I'm asking about the poster is that most people think they know what a movie poster looks like... It's rectangular, with a compelling image, the movie's title across the top, and some small, thin print at the bottom. I'm trying to figure out what our small, thin print at the bottom should say... I don't want to list my name more than once, and I want to recognize people who are major contributors regardless of whether their title is something familiar. For example, this movie's costumes are mostly by "Nancy Gormezano;" the music is by "Chris Caouette;" and the songs are by "Niels Krook." "Robert Holmen" serves as an Animation Supervisor on a few sequences. The movie is being edited by "Dylan Perry;" lit mostly by "Stian Wahlvaag;" and a lot of the Layout is by "Ken Heslip."
goodguy20k
So long as Im listed, I dont care. wink.gif Hey, you KNOW you couldnt have finished the movie without me! wink.gif

Kidding!

I like Martins list. I think Dhar belongs in there, maybe along with Robert on Animation Supervision? David and Mark with Rigging come to mind. Yves for lighting? (I know more are on lighting, but... Hes the only one who I could remember.)

::Shrug:: I owe so much to so many on this team for helping me do my part. How can I help pick em out? tongue.gif

(Sorry about the lack of the single version of ", my computers screwy...)
itsjustme
For the movie poster, a catchy phrase about the film and the studio that made it are about all that is needed really...here is an example.

I say name the movie division of Hash and put it on there with a catch phrase. Simple, to the point.

How about "Kitchen Table Films" as a movie division? I don't have anything for a catch phrase at the moment...I'm sure there are plenty of good ideas amongst the group though.

It would be cool if we could get a copy of the poster...using Cafe Press, it would be cheap to set up.


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EDIT
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I just realized that the film division is already named, A:M Films...I need to wake up, I guess.
martin
Okay, David, I like your example link. We need a catch phrase!

"Love, Honor and Adventure in Land of Oz"
goodguy20k
How about "I <3 T.W.O.!" Using Tin Woodsman's heart. wink.gif It'd hit well with the teen scene... wink.gif
martin
Another good idea: rendered icons that are incorporated into the catch phrase! The Tin Heart... The Tin Axe... Tin Girl... ???
KenH
A Tin-acious Tale of Adventure......the E could have been turned into an I by someone hacking off the three "side bits".

Aping "The curse of the black Pearl".....The curse of love.

A Titanic Yarn....on land.

The Tin-Straw-Meat Fellowship.

Love sick Puppy Adventures. biggrin.gif

The Triple Trouble Trials and Tribulations.

An excellent adventure. (that might be taken wink.gif )

Fun in the forest.

The timeless pain of love.

The Walk Out.

The Wacky Opportunity.

Caravan Adventures.

The friendship of destiny.

Love struck.

Rusty love Tale.

Most of those are just to get the creative juices flowing.
martin
QUOTE(KenH @ Sep 12 2007, 05:23 PM) *
Rusty love Tale.

That's good.
NancyGormezano
The journey continues...

Just because you have heart...

Getting a heart was just the beginning ...

With a heart comes responsibilities ...

The story continues ...

Having heart is not always the solution ...
robcat2075
"Your Old Friends In A New Adventure"



The amount of TWO that I've supervised is so small that I don't think I merit a "Supervision" credit.



I'd say mention everyone or no one. If you want to mention everyone, that's what they make those skinny movie poster fonts for. You could make it really skinny for the people who animated just one scene or just made one prop:

For example for animation you could group it like this:

ANIMATED BY (people who did a whole sequence) with (people who did several shots) and additional animation by (people who did one shot or a part of one shot)

There are probably similar tiers for modeling and texturing

But where will this poster actually be used, though? We're not expecting any theatrical distribution... Where would anyone see this poster?
goodguy20k
Rusty and broken, but still beating...

Getting all polished up...

Rusted Heartbreak and Repair (Call 555-4925. wink.gif)
martin
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2007, 06:44 PM) *
"But where will this poster actually be used, though? We're not expecting any theatrical distribution... Where would anyone see this poster?

This is primarily for the One Sheet but, of course, we'll have a poster hanging in our MIPCOM booth, and our distributor (?) will want a poster for their tradeshows and journals.
PF_Mark
QUOTE(martin @ Sep 12 2007, 01:51 PM) *
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2007, 10:35 AM) *
If you named everyone, how many names would it be?

Hmmm... What would the cut-off point be? I think we'd have at least 50 that did a scene or a major model and maybe 100 total... But I like the idea. Would we do the same thing for the One Sheet and the poster?

Other ideas?


Sorry but what is One Sheet? I understand about the poster a big picture of maybe TW SC and Woot and writen by Animated by ect. but what is this One sheet?

Could you link us a High res. digital copy so we could get it printed out full sized and framed I invision this going next to my TAoAM Cert
robcat2075
I wouldn't be surprised if a distributor wanted to design the promo materials themselves.
Kamikaze
Speaking of, is there another post that has the list of credits for the movie itself? I didn't contribute much, a Fence in Winkieville and if its still in there and gets some time on screen I sure think my sons would get a kick out of seeing their Dads name on screen....thanks
martin
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 12 2007, 08:53 PM) *
I wouldn't be surprised if a distributor wanted to design the promo materials themselves.

They do but they start with what we already have.
martin
QUOTE(Kamikaze @ Sep 12 2007, 09:54 PM) *
Speaking of, is there another post that has the list of credits for the movie itself? I didn't contribute much, a Fence in Winkieville and if its still in there and gets some time on screen I sure think my sons would get a kick out of seeing their Dads name on screen....thanks

http://wiki.hash.com/index.php/Contributors#Prop_Modellers
spacecomics
You might as well mention Animation:Master also, like "Filmed Entirely In Animation:Master" or something like that, so you advertise the program at the same time, killing two birds with one stone, and put the url www.hash.com at the bottom.
KenH
QUOTE
Getting a heart was just the beginning ...


I like this one. To "refine" it more:

The heart was just the start.
Xtaz
a good call is:

e-ntertainment is e-Movie.
TWO, the first movie entire produced in the Internet.
martin
Here's what I've got...

QUOTE
An A:M Films Production...

A heart was just the start - A rusty love tale.

Loyalty, adventure and honor in Land of Oz.
KenH
It's a little wordy for just a catch phrase. If you're having trouble choosing, maybe a vote would narrow it down. My instinct would be to at least knock off the "A rusty love tale" as it feels "stuck on the end". I'm sure it might be used some where else more effectively.
NancyGormezano
I agree with Ken.

Knock off the "rusty love tale" and I think you can use all of the rest in different places on the poster, in different font sizes.

spacecomics
"The heart was just the start" is catchy and conveys a lot about the movie.

I hope I don't get kicked out for posting this:

In the Land of Oz, no one can hear your heart beat.
itsjustme
Maybe "A heart was just the start" would be a little better...having "the" two times in the sentence feels strange to me.
martin
QUOTE(itsjustme @ Sep 13 2007, 01:25 PM) *
Maybe "A heart was just the start" would be a little better...having "the" two times in the sentence feels strange to me.

Done.
Zaryin
Poster: Only name those like director, writer, producer and actors. The movie credits are for the end of the film smile.gif.
robcat2075
QUOTE(Zaryin @ Sep 13 2007, 05:07 PM) *
Poster: Only name those like director...


That's about 50 people already. wink.gif
Zaryin
I know, I just thought I'd add my opinion, haha. smile.gif
Kamikaze
Thanks for the Wiki link , Make a bunch of posters! I want to buy one or two...or....
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