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Eric2575
Hi all

Having been out of the TWO loop for a long, long, long time, I'm not sure I know where to start. Martin assigned me the task of animating 3_05_53 (1), TIN GIRL There must be some way to return Woot to his natural form.

I don't have to download everything on the SVN just to work on this snippet, do I? If not, how do I go about downloading just what I need, and then once I am done with animating, how do I upload the animation? Btw, as I animate, do I save onto my hard drive to my documents, or do I save into the directory that the SVN puts on my hard drive? Is there a guide for first timers? There is such an immense database on TWO, that I feel a little lost right now.

I appreciate a little guidance.

Thanks

Eric

KenH
There's a FAQ on the TWO site, but I don't know if it covers (all) these questions:

1) No, you don't have to download everything. But you'll still need to download abit. First you'll need to get that folder updated. If you've got it already, just right click on it and update. If you don't have it, you'll have to update down the folders to it. Then you'll most likely need to update your shared data folder. That could be alot of data.....you might just update the set (deep cut) and Tingirl.

2) To upload an animation....this is how I do it, but you can do it within AM too.....I find the file in windows explorer and right click>tortoisesvn>add. Then when that's done....right click>tortoisesvn>commit adding a comment in the box describing what you're commiting.

3) Over-write the chor/proj in the shot folder. SVN allows you to go back to previous versions if necessary.
PF_Mark
QUOTE(Eric2575 @ Sep 5 2007, 05:56 PM) *
Hi all

Having been out of the TWO loop for a long, long, long time, I'm not sure I know where to start. Martin assigned me the task of animating 3_05_53 (1), TIN GIRL There must be some way to return Woot to his natural form.

I don't have to download everything on the SVN just to work on this snippet, do I? If not, how do I go about downloading just what I need, and then once I am done with animating, how do I upload the animation? Btw, as I animate, do I save onto my hard drive to my documents, or do I save into the directory that the SVN puts on my hard drive? Is there a guide for first timers? There is such an immense database on TWO, that I feel a little lost right now.

I appreciate a little guidance.

Thanks

Eric



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There must be some way to return Woot to his natural form


I have not done one of those shots so I do not know if there is an established way but basically open porperties window and there is a feild labbeled Active you can switch that to off at the time you want monkey to dissapear then in woots properties turn him off at frame zero then on at the same frame you turn monkey off and pose them both in same place. the Affect is being done be someone else I think so do not worry about that.


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I don't have to download everything on the SVN just to work on this snippet, do I?


No but you need the shared foloder be sure to update that!

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how do I go about downloading just what I need,


Once you have SVN setup see instruction on winki then select the shared holder and right click then SVN Update do this for the scene dir as well.

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how do I upload the animation?


after you are done select the files you want to upload say jus the final ones you can have as many ver. or takes as you want on your svn dir but just select the files that will be final right click them and Tortose SVN then select add then select the folder you want to upload and right click commit and only the files that you added to svn will be uploaded but be sure to type something into message field or it will not work.

there is alot but once you work your way through it biggrin.gif
Eric2575
Ok, here's the rub, I am working on a brand new computer that has no TWO data whatsoever. So I go to the SVN walkthrough and do everything up to the point of "checkout." Here I stop because it looks like doing the checkout from scratch will download the whole TWO database onto my computer. I don't want this to happen. At this point, can I get just the data that I need? I have not clicked "ok" in the dialog box.
KenH
The "only check out top folder" looks like a good option. But it's been a while since I did the procedure that I wouldn't be sure. If you previously downloaded svn data, I believe you can bring it over from your old computer.
Eric2575
I got a little further. Clicking on the browse button next to URL of repository got me into the subfolders and I was able to browse to the scene that I need. At this point, do I highlight the scene and ctrl the Shared folder? Will this download both?
Eric2575
I'm going for it!

When I clicked "ok", it only showed "Shared Data" in the Url of repository. If the scene does not download, I'll try again.
Eric2575
This sucks!!!!!!

1.5 GB transferred so far for one tiny, eeny weeny scene.

Did I say this sucks???
Eric2575
The transfer window is still running. So far it reports 1.8 GB transferred, but when I actually check my hard drive, the total data in the TWO location is over 5.7 GB transferred.

This is exactly what I was trying to avoid.
Dhar
What're you crying about? I have over 30 gig on mine mad.gif
KenH
You should have browsed further into the shared folder to keep it smaller.
Eric2575
You're not helping! Besides, I'll cry if I want to tongue.gif

Well, I need more handholding. After the download completed, I looked at my drive and didn't see what I expected. See below. The scene I am supposed to work on is no where to be found. Reading further on the SVN walkthrough I hit update in the AM community pane. This pops up the checkout window, but the checkout directory reads: C:\TWO. I suppose this is the default directory, but I specified a different directory when I initially downloaded the TWO data. I chose C:\Users\Eric\TwoData. So I redirect to that location. See below.

Once I hit ok, another popup comes up asking if I am sure to checkout into that folder since it is not empty. I click "yes" and get an Error. Furthermore, somehow a TWO directory appeared in my root directory and it reappears no matter how many times I delete it.

Ok, Dhar, I'm not crying, but am pretty frustrated. Some guidance would be very much appreciated.
Eric2575
I did not know that I should have done that, browsing further into the shared folder. Now what?
KenH
Ummmm......what about manually copying the new stuff into the old location?
Eric2575
I figured that since the Root TWO directory keeps reappearing, I decided to update that one and guide it to the scene needed. That worked, I now have scene 53 in that directory. I'm just concerned that now I have two different directories with TWO stuff in them. I wonder if I should delete the data I orinally downloaded and just start over with the default C:\TWO?
PF_Mark
Sorry I should have said this in my first post but you really should put TWO in root of hard drive not in users/ducument/yourname/ect. Because SVN has a dir charcter number limit so you need to keep is a short as possible ex. C:\two or else you will run into trouble maybe they set it up that way for this reason?
NancyGormezano
don't delete it - just move it on your hard drive to under the TWO folder and make sure you have the same folder structure as the svn under the TWO folder.

I don't have the entire TWO database on my harddrive - I only download the portions I need by setting up the folder structure first before browsing to "checkout"
Eric2575
Thank you all for your patience and guidance. Nancy, I did pretty much what you described. Me thinks it's working now. Cross fingers, thumbs, toes, and eyes blink.gif
Dhar
Sorry for not being helpful Eric. When I started TWO it was when we had to DL the whole thing (5 gig at the time), and that was on my old computer which left me with neigh 2 gig of space sad.gif I didn't do much experimenting with SVN because I'm not computer savvy. I just want to animate. Which is why I have such a huge file on my new computer.

Once you get the hang of it you'll forget about this thread biggrin.gif
Eric2575
No problemo wink.gif
Eric2575
Actually one more question: I am using V.13 and am getting about 5 warnings that the project about to load was created in V.14. Am I going to mess something up animating in V.13 and updating that to the SVN? Do I need to get V.14? I wasn't planning to upgrade until V.15 due to the new Water possibilities.

Dhar
A lot of upgrades have been implemented since then. My advice is to upgrade to 14.
KenH
Actually, it should be fine for animation.....as long as you only save the chor and prj (no models) it should be ok. But upgrade anyway. wink.gif
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