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swooster
Here are a couple of sneak previews of a feature I've been working on: fluids. (the two movies below are from testing different settings)

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It's still in the early phase of development, but it's already looking like water.


Paul Forwood
Very cool! smile.gif
Now tell me about render times. biggrin.gif
robcat2075
The bouncing droplets are a bit odd, but it looks quite promising! I look forward to seeing this develop.
HomeSlice
Woah, Stevie that's awesome. I see Martin has been cracking the whip wink.gif
Keep up the great work!
Zaryin
Very awesome. Is this some form of blobbie? If not, what is the difference?
NancyGormezano
WOW WOW WOW

fabulous!
johnl3d
Fantastic keep up the good work
mtpeak2
Nice Steve, it looks great so far.
phatso
Ooo, I'm gonna NEED that. I'll be doing a fish tank. Looks like next year's $99 is a sure thing.
Fuchur
Looks amazing! Thank you for sharing Stewie!

*Fuchur*
goodguy20k
Martin's got my upgrade when this is released! wink.gif

(Now if he'd just port over to Linux... ::Sigh:smile.gif
the_black_mage
wow, i'm surprised!

A:M just keeps getting better!
Chrury Sanson
That is so totally wicked! I'll be sure to put money away after college. You got a buy from me. d(^_^)
John Bigboote
WHU????

I never thought I'd see the day!
Thats FANTASTIC! The samples and the NEWS!!!

Can you give us any more to further 'whett' our collective whistles??? How about info... is it particle based? Is it render-intensive?(I imagine it is with the caustics and all...)

And WHO are you??? Are you a Hash-programmer or independent? Steve or Stu Wooster?

I'm HYPED!!!
Kamikaze
OH My...fluids? that's a mind blower!........just upgraded to this years sub.....and already can't wait till next version.........
adam
wow looks really cool, although the first one looks like clear throw up
arkaos
QUOTE(adam @ Aug 15 2007, 08:27 AM) *
wow looks really cool, although the first one looks like clear throw up


Clear vomit is still a fluid......AWESOME.
HomeSlice
QUOTE(John Bigboote @ Aug 14 2007, 07:21 AM) *
How about info... is it particle based? Is it render-intensive?

I believe it is based on blobbies, but Steve has obviously made a few modifications.
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And WHO are you??? Are you a Hash-programmer or independent? Steve or Stu Wooster?

He is Steve Wooster (aka Stevie). He is the new Intern at Hash. He lives in Martin's house and only sees the light of day when he is able to sneak out. His post was obviously made during one of those times ... before he was discovered and thrown back into the basement. wink.gif


just kidding...
John Bigboote
Nice to meet Mr. Wooster! You are my new HERO (next to Stevie Ray Vaughan, Barry Bonds and Ellen Pompei)

Well...if it's based on 'blobbies'...I guess that would mean a big 'HELL-FREAKIN-YES' to outlandish render times. TELL ME I'm wrong...


please?
sanman
Amazing! I know it's just an early work, but I hope that it will eventually allow a less lumpy look.
Julian
QUOTE(John Bigboote @ Aug 15 2007, 07:17 PM) *
Well...if it's based on 'blobbies'...I guess that would mean a big 'HELL-FREAKIN-YES' to outlandish render times. TELL ME I'm wrong...


please?

The first time fluids were introduced in Beta 6, I made a post about my test of render times. I don't know if they work any better in the latest revision.
John Bigboote
OK- just read that thread...thanks Julian! So- I guess what's new since that thread is that you can now set the transparency/density/refraction/speculaity/ of the blobbies...ALL of which are additional rendertime whores...


Well- maybe by the time V15 comes to be...computers will be much faster....and man will have walked on the MOON!


BTW---Does the new V14.0 feature of 'threaded' rendering work yet?
heyvern
AAHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!

<gasp>

<thunk>


I'm sorry. Vernon is unable to respond at this time due to sudden excitement and loss of consciousness.


-Vern's Administrative Assistant -
John Bigboote
OHNO! Vern!

QUICK! Somebody send a box of doughnuts-milk--a pack of pall malls---some pillows---naked pictures of Rachael Ray-----and the machine that goes 'ping' over to his house IMMEDIATELY!

I think he is suffering from 'Cool New Feature-itis'...and he's got it BAD!

(CC those RR pix to me too!)
heyvern
Holy cow!

There are naked pictures of Rachael Ray??!!

Seriously though...

I'm feeling much better now. So I get the impression this new feature is sort of like a "modified blobbies" type thing? I've often wondered if blobbies could be used for liquids.

This is the "last thing" left for AM in my opinion. There really isn't ANY other "major" type feature in any program that isn't covered in AM. Pretty cool.

The "main" feature list in my head was:
Hair
Cloth
Object collisions (Newton Physics)
Displacement mapping (the "new" kind)
SSS (I think Yves is working on that. Haven't been keeping track)
And now... liquid.

These were like... all the features "newbies" asked about first.

"How do I do like a flowing cape on like this big hairy woman made of sort of green jade bouncing of the wall? It's a two hour epic feature film and I plan to get it done this summer before I go back to school."

After AM v15 comes out...

"How do I do a flowing cape on a big hairy woman made of green jade bouncing off the wall and falling into a swimming pool? It's a 5 minute short animation for film school this semester."

p.s. I don't have any specific attraction to or opinions about big hairy women. It was just an example.

-vern
John Bigboote
What about the 'make look cool' button, like they have at Pixar?


I'm bored...I actually googled Rachael Ray naked... http://jackandhill.typepad.com/jack_and_hi...picture_ray.JPG
robcat2075
I've noticed other software using "fluid" simulations for things like smoke or billowing fire which are really gases but I guess have many behaviours similar to liquids. I wonder if this could be used in a like way for cases where sprite smoke and fire won't do?


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"How do I do a flowing cape on a big hairy woman made of green jade bouncing off the wall and falling into a swimming pool? It's a 5 minute short animation for film school this semester."
That's the problem for artist working in 3D... you have to wait for someone else to make something possible. In 2D you "just" draw it.

I once worked with an animator who also had a career as a supervisor in an animation factory in China. He claimed the best animators were in China; they could draw anything he said. "if you need a green zombie with three eyes and four arms tumbling off a cliff wearing a cape and shooting fire out of his mouth... they can draw that."

Julian
QUOTE(heyvern @ Aug 16 2007, 12:15 PM) *
This is the "last thing" left for AM in my opinion. There really isn't ANY other "major" type feature in any program that isn't covered in AM. Pretty cool.

Liquid dynamics are all very well and good, but personally, I'd like to see gas dynamics -- particularly self-shadowing clouds and smoke. There are limits to how well you can fake it with sprites.

(Edit: I wrote this before I saw Robert's post above.)
Fuchur
Do you know what is the best? That noone is rising the presure on him wink.gif
"Make me a make cool button..."
"Coolest Thing ever!"
"Oh, while you at water... just make something for gas too, will you?"

wink.gif Lets go step by step folks...
Water at first, after that to the moon wink.gif

*Fuchur*
Hubukai
spectacular work. this is WHY i stay with AM and drop my $99 eash year without thought.
swooster
There's a new version of the fluid tutorial for today's new V15 alpha1 release.
A few improvements have been made to fluid physics... for example, collisions are now smoother and less jittery.
Also, here's a couple of new videos of slime and water respectively.
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robcat2075
That's pretty sharp looking!

Is there any way to make the small droplets "wetter"? Right now a small droplet on a surface is very beadlike.
Kamikaze
I am truely amazed! ,I'm ready to purchase v15 at any time........
HomeSlice
Wow Stevie. That's sweet! You're doing some amazing work.
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