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Zaryin
I was asked if I would like to model some band instruments for TWO, so I thought i would give it a go. I don't really have that much practice at mechanical modeling, but since they're instruments they are more organic in shape. I was also told that I wouldn't have to put too much detail into it.

Here is the first one; the trumpet.

robcat2075
OMG! That's already way better than I was thinking. It looks fabulous.

BTW, can you make a stripped down proxy too?
Zaryin
Sure. Here's a pic. The Proxy is 200 patches. The original is at 836. Hope that's good for you.

What should I do with the finished models? Should I post them here? Should I put them somewhere on SVN? Or should I e-mail them to someone?

agep
Great model!
robcat2075
QUOTE(Zaryin @ Jul 24 2007, 02:46 AM) *
Sure. Here's a pic. The Proxy is 200 patches. The original is at 836. Hope that's good for you.
Perfect!

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What should I do with the finished models? Should I post them here? Should I put them somewhere on SVN? Or should I e-mail them to someone?


Make a subfolder for each instrument in the Props folder of the SVN and put the regular and proxy model in that.

Is there a reflection map on that model? I'm thinking that's probably the way to go to keep render times reasonable.

There doesn't seem to be a consistent rule for where to put materials for props. Some have their own subfolder, while others call files from the general Images and Materials folders. Perhaps it depends on whether a texture is specific to a model or not.

Thanks, Jeff!


KenH
Nice model Jeff!
Zaryin
Thanks guys!

I just have Reflection set at 25% with Filter and Blend at 25%.

I'll make a Sub Folder called "Band Instruments", then I'll make Sub Folders for all the instruments and their proxies.

On to the next one! smile.gif
Zaryin
Added the Folder to the Props folder on SVN for the Band Instruments.
Dhar
Nice work Jeff - you're making the Hot Five burn with jealosy biggrin.gif

robcat2075
I didn't know you had made those Dhar! Can we use the trombone and clarinet?

Jeff... dont' do a trombone or clarinet yet. Let's think of some weird OZ band instruments.
Dhar
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Jul 24 2007, 06:44 PM) *
I didn't know you had made those Dhar! Can we use the trombone and clarinet?

Jeff... dont' do a trombone or clarinet yet. Let's think of some weird OZ band instruments.


Sure you can, if Jeff doesn't mind that is - sorry Jeff, I didn't mean to upstage you, I wish I had your trumpet, it's far more refined that mine.

I made these in v12. I don't think they'd be a problem in v14.

Let me know what you'd like me to do.
phatso
Robcat likes Bruckner, he would appreciate a good brass instrument. rolleyes.gif

I was going to make the comment Robcat made. I can't imagine a band anywhere without trumpets - and that's such a good one, dang ya! - but this is Oz, shouldn't there be a few fantasy instruments in amongst the real-world ones?

Suggestion: you can let your imagination run wild with a steam calliope. Yeah, I know, "So model it, phatso." Sorry. Gotta so do work that pays the bills.
Zaryin
I was planning on making the normal band instruments, then I was going to start into the fantastical smile.gif.

Thanks for the comments. I have no problem modeling less, haha. Saves me work. I'm glad I've been a little busy the last few days, otherwise those would have already been modeled. smile.gif And since it's starting to thunder here, I'm getting off the pc for now.
robcat2075
QUOTE(phatso @ Jul 25 2007, 02:02 AM) *
Suggestion: you can let your imagination run wild with a steam calliope. Yeah, I know, "So model it, phatso." Sorry. Gotta so do work that pays the bills.


I think the most ill-suited instrument choice ever was in a Woody Allen movie where he was trying to play the cello in a marching band.

I know Jeff doesn't have infinite time to devote to this so that's why i aimed him at the essentials. But if someone made a great steam calliope (it would have to be pretty soon) it would get used.

I remember seeing a calliope in a parade when i was little and being disappointed afterwards that the pipe organs in church didn't have clouds of steam shooting out of them.


Zaryin
By all means anyone who wishes to hijack this thread you are welcome smile.gif. The more intruments we get for the band the better. Including Steam Calliopes smile.gif.
phatso
Gawd that Woody Allen thing was funny.

I think pipe organs in churches should spout fire and brimstone. laugh.gif
Dhar
Trombone and clarinet added to Jeff's "Band Instruments" folder.
Zaryin
Took a stab at a fantastical instrument that I'm calling a trihorn for now. It's probably going to need some adjusting with a winkie, but it's close to what it would look like with a person -- I think smile.gif.

I don't have a proxy for this one as of yet.

Dhar
That is looking sweet!

More....more biggrin.gif
NancyGormezano
Ooooo FUN! love it (I agree: more, more)
robcat2075
oh yeah! I was going to suggest a trumpet with three bells but this is even better.

Jeff, can you add some hint of a mechanism to it, like some valves?
Zaryin
Thanks, guys -- and girl smile.gif.

Do you mean like the trumpet valves? If that's what you mean, that should be as easy as copy/paste smile.gif.

EDIT: I got to say, if you mean like this pic -- I kind of like it better without them, but let me know.

Dhar
I think he meant more like a saxaphone. Clutter it up a bit with valves and rods.
Zaryin
We'll see what I can do about that smile.gif.

Here's the Bass Drum. Didn't make the drumstick though. I don't really know how I should set that up.

EDIT: I looked at some pics of Saxaphones and have to say that I just don't have enough skill at mechanical modeling. In either making or proper placement of the extra nurnies. I think I'll just have to leave it as is. If someone else thinks they can do it, I will be posting these models to the SVN.

robcat2075
yeah the saxophone mechanism is too complex to bother with.

ok leave the valves off the tri horn. smile.gif
Zaryin
Here's the Sousaphone. This one will almost definately need adjusting to fit a Winkie. I have already added it to the Band Instruments Folder on SVN.
robcat2075
Good looking Sousaphone! Would it be hard to fatten the "bore" somewhat?
Zaryin
Depends which part would need to fattened. It should be easy for anyone to do. Just grab a ring and resize it, or do it in Distortion Mode. If you could point out the area I'll see what I can do.
KenH
Hi Jeff. When I import the trumpet, it askes for trump01.jpg. Is it on svn? If not, can you upload. Thanks.
Zaryin
Ken, that was the roto I was using. It's unnessassary. If you can, can you resave it without the roto and reupload it? I must have forgot to delete it before uploading
KenH
I worked it out and did it. Thanks.
robcat2075
Don't anyone make one of these, but since we were talking about weird instruments I thought I'd show this find.

This is from one of the experimental "Vitaphone" shorts that Warners did in the late 20's, a vaudeville act featuring a jazz violinist. He's actually got a bell on the thing!

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Here's the cool part: That young man is George Stoll, who went on to a successful career as a Hollywood music director (8 Oscar noms, 1 win), including some work on... The Wizard of Oz!

He was even the voice of a Munchkin.
phatso
I've actually heard one of those. A guy goes around giving recitals on rare historical instruments. Its' louder, as intended, but it kind of ruins the tone.
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