I have primarily using the face camera view for facial animation and the eye lids null bring the upper and lower eye lid up and down but how do I curve hte lids? I can curve the eye brows because there is 2 nulls per lid I want to do simalar thing for eye lids. Is there a slider some were I have not found?

Do you mean angle the lids....for example down for angry. It's not possible with the current rig. Perhaps with TWO the sequel. Till then we can only make do with what we have.

I mean like this but side ways ( like this

or like Robert is saying near the end of this video

http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?s=&am...st&p=209648

OK I think I understand. There's no pose that I know of. You're free to add a pose though if it's needed. It should be quite easy to pull up cps in the middle of the lids. It can be edited later (by anyone) if you can't get it quite right.

A pose like that would be a muscle pose....it's pretty easily added if it's required.

now wait a sec. All i gotta do is turn "Blink" to 100% and i get downward curved eyelids. and if I move the eye target I can adjust how much they are "down"

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All I'm talking about is getting the eyelids to meet at something other than exact 50/50. I'm not wanting to muscle pose these things. (yet)

Question... the eye target can only lead them up to 50/50. Is there a way to get them higher if I wanted, for an upcurved line?

For the "Blink" pose there's a blink target for each eye, the eyelid bones have "aim at" constraints to aim at the blink targets (with an offset if necessary) when the pose is at 100%. If you need the blink to happen higher or lower, the easiest way to do it would be to move the blink targets...that could be done in a percentage pose pretty easily.

The eyelids can be moved to something other than 50/50 using the individual eyelid poses as well.

Hope that helps, Robert.