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John Bigboote
Hey- I'm getting strange results using V13C and making new model and hair in that version...it is not acting like hair from previous versions...

Is anyone else using the latest versions of A:M hair and getting it to work?

(Oh- and I still haven't seen any differnece with Kayijay or muhair, even with the render props to ON...)
cosmonaut
Hmm, very strange. I haven't tried 13c but 13d worked fine for me. Could you post a screenshot of what you are seeing? Also, maybe post a project with the new shaders to see if there's anything obvious?
rusty
I’m working with hair right now in V13d and I don’t think I’ve noticed too much going wrong. All this hair was started in V12 – I have not ‘started’ any hair systems in V13d. In fact I’ve only been making minor tweaks to my hair systems in V13d. You are pretty vague on what’s not right, could you elaborate?

I perhaps have noticed the guide spines jumping around when you try to move them but that just might have been the angle they were at when I moved them.

Cheers,
Rusty
rbjohnsn
My hair in ver 13c was just fixed, never acked like hair back in ver 11.

I've looked for ver 13d but didn't see it on the website. Did I miss something?
rusty
Look here:

http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23092
John Bigboote
Firstly...did they somewhere along the line get rid of the % for spring? There are the 3 hair constraints...none/constraint/spring... spring USED to have a 'springiness' setting, which I don't see anymore...and miss.

THE WEIRDNESS I am getting is when I use spring, and hair that is over 10 cm length...the hair just sort of 'bobs' slowly up and down, up and down...It does not do it on models made with previous hair (V11-12) just on models with NEW V13 hair...
cosmonaut
QUOTE(John Bigboote @ Jul 26 2006, 12:54 PM) *

Firstly...did they somewhere along the line get rid of the % for spring? There are the 3 hair constraints...none/constraint/spring... spring USED to have a 'springiness' setting, which I don't see anymore...and miss.

THE WEIRDNESS I am getting is when I use spring, and hair that is over 10 cm length...the hair just sort of 'bobs' slowly up and down, up and down...It does not do it on models made with previous hair (V11-12) just on models with NEW V13 hair...


Ahh, as it stands the only thing that's really NEW in V13 hair are the hair shaders I wrote, which wouldn't be causing the issues you are seeing. There are probably some other undocumented changes that might be causing your problems. Sounds like the dynamics are having some issues. You probably should write up an AM report with what you are seeing. Any luck getting the shaders to work btw?

Kevin
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