QUOTE(John Bigboote @ Jul 26 2006, 12:54 PM)

Firstly...did they somewhere along the line get rid of the % for spring? There are the 3 hair constraints...none/constraint/spring... spring USED to have a 'springiness' setting, which I don't see anymore...and miss.
THE WEIRDNESS I am getting is when I use spring, and hair that is over 10 cm length...the hair just sort of 'bobs' slowly up and down, up and down...It does not do it on models made with previous hair (V11-12) just on models with NEW V13 hair...
Ahh, as it stands the only thing that's really NEW in V13 hair are the hair shaders I wrote, which wouldn't be causing the issues you are seeing. There are probably some other undocumented changes that might be causing your problems. Sounds like the dynamics are having some issues. You probably should write up an AM report with what you are seeing. Any luck getting the shaders to work btw?
Kevin