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martin
(Tin Woodman, Scarecrow, Woot)
We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long.

(Tin Woodman)
It’s her I’m off to see,
I can’t be late,
I’ve got a date,
Nimmie Amee waits on me,

(Tin Woodman, Scarecrow, Woot)
We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long.

(Scarecrow)
My straw is fresh,
I’m dressed in my best,
My hat is on straight,
My shoes fit my gait,
It’s Nimmie Amee we’re off to see.

(Tin Woodman, Scarecrow, Woot)
We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long.

(Woot)
Fin-al-ly,
I’m on a journey,
On an adventure,
With new friends.
It gets no better for me.

(Tin Woodman, Scarecrow, Woot)
We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long.

(Tin Woodman)
Make my tin castle glint,
While I am absent,
Prepare for my return,
With a new queen,
Me and Nimmie Amee.

(Tin Woodman, Scarecrow, Woot)
We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long.
robcat2075
Well, this would be the "chorus" part

(it's a march)

We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long,
Off at dawn, we're on the lawn, and with this good-bye song...
We're off, we're gone, we're really getting GONE....
We're off, we're gone, SO LONG!


The Windows piano version sounds quite clunky but here it is...

[attachmentid=17491]

I have something for the "verse" to go with this, but not recorded yet.
robcat2075
ok, this program doesn't really do notation properly but here's an easy-note piano version.
Robert-Jank
Looking nice Robcat!
martin
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Jun 15 2006, 01:32 AM) *

ok, this program doesn't really do notation properly but here's an easy-note piano version.

Keep those scores coming, Robert.
KenH
Perhaps instead of:

Off at dawn, we're on the lawn, and with this good-bye song...

it might be:

Off at dawn, the bridge is drawn, and with this good-bye song...
robcat2075
Two of these guys can't sing and the other one didn't hit his high note, but with some rehearsal it might work...

[attachmentid=17566]
transposed up to F, BTW

QUOTE(KenH @ Jun 15 2006, 09:51 AM) *

Off at dawn, the bridge is drawn, and with this good-bye song...

Good idea!
martin
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Jun 18 2006, 02:36 PM) *

Two of these guys can't sing and the other one didn't hit his high note, but with some rehearsal it might work...

Sounds like a great chorus to me!
jandals
This is awesome! It fits the scene so well.
Rodney
I agree, very awesome. Chills went up my spine.

<Imagine me clapping>

A variation of the same song could be played (instrumental if nothing else) at a few strategic places throughout the movie. Such as each time they leave a location to get back to their adventuring.
When they leave Mrs. Yoop's castle the tempo would really pick up I'm sure! wink.gif
robcat2075
Thanks Guys!

QUOTE(Rodney @ Jun 18 2006, 08:06 PM) *

A variation of the same song could be played (instrumental if nothing else) at a few strategic places throughout the movie.


maybe the reprise at the end could be:

We're back! We're home!
Hello, we're back, we're home.
Grab a seat and rest your feet and hear where we have roamed...
Luxo
Wow Robert, you have some amazing talent, that's for sure!! smile.gif

Great work!
TeresaNord
WOW great stuff Robert!
QUOTE
Two of these guys can't sing and the other one didn't hit his high note
ehehehe, sounds just like someone I know........
robcat2075
Now with music for "the verse."

[attachmentid=20660]

I just did the "Tinman" and "Scarecrow" verse but you'll get the idea.

The chorus is just the same one pasted in but I think we might tinker with the words a bit for each iteration of it.

Maybe for the last one a thousand winkies could join in:

You're off, You're gone!
It's time for you to go!
...
NancyGormezano
Love it! LOVE it LOVE IT!

Fabulous.

(Maybe the evil ogre Singing-Sutton - can join in the chorus of the Winkies - like in ending with a "get outta here already" sorta tone?)

really good
TeresaNord
That is a most excellent rendition Robert! smile.gif
I really really really really REALLY like it!!!
In fact I agree with Nancy.....I LOVE IT!

(you should record Woot's verse too tongue.gif )
robcat2075
Thanks! I'm enjoying hammering out this song.


Anyway... I'm looking for ideas to vary the chorus:

We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long,
Off at dawn, the bridge is drawn, and with this good-bye song...
We're off, we're gone, we're really getting GONE....
We're off, we're gone, so long!



For example when Tinman is leaving the Servant in charge of the castle it could be

I'm off, I'm gone,
I'm off, I'm gone, so long,
Walk the dog and mow the lawn and feed my giant swan...
I'm off, I'm gone, I'm really getting GONE....
I'm off, I'm gone, so long!



things that deal with leaving home or heading on a trip or any other present matter.

it doesn't have to rhyme with "gone", it could be anything else

We’re off, we’re gone,
It's time for us to go,
[Something, something, something, some,]
No need to stop the show...




Ideas? Anyone can play here.
PF_Mark
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 27 2006, 03:29 AM) *

Thanks! I'm enjoying hammering out this song.


Anyway... I'm looking for ideas to vary the chorus:

We’re off, we’re gone,
We’re off, we’re gone, so long,
Off at dawn, the bridge is drawn, and with this good-bye song...
We're off, we're gone, we're really getting GONE....
We're off, we're gone, so long!



For example when Tinman is leaving the Servant in charge of the castle it could be

I'm off, I'm gone,
I'm off, I'm gone, so long,
Walk the dog and mow the lawn and feed my giant swan...
I'm off, I'm gone, I'm really getting GONE....
I'm off, I'm gone, so long!



things that deal with leaving home or heading on a trip or any other present matter.

it doesn't have to rhyme with "gone", it could be anything else

We’re off, we’re gone,
It's time for us to go,
[Something, something, something, some,]
No need to stop the show...




Ideas? Anyone can play here.


We’re off, we’re gone,
It's time for us to go,
[So watch this place and keep the faith]
No need to stop the show...
or We really need to GO If that's the ending of the song?

How about that?

Now about this sequence _2_01 first seeing we are redoing it and I am glad this is after my scenes which are already under way I wanted to request we think about adding in my shot of the servant polishing the tinman's back. We have the tin of polish and we can also do the scene with the close up of the servant putting polish on cloth if we want.

Next can I have a try at animating some of this song I think that would be great if I could try my hand at it but if Robert would rather do this himself seeing it's his baby or maybe I could help him? anyways just wanted to show that I am willing to try.
robcat2075
I'm beginning to think the script on the wiki is not up to date. I remember your shot of the polishing going on and yet on the wiki it's only referred to in this line.

QUOTE
It took a lot of work getting polished and ready for a journey.


So the script on the wiki must be incorrect.


Anyway, the song is coming in right after that point. There's a shot where Tinman and Servant are picking out an axe, so the Servant is going to say

Servant: Here's your axe, sire. Will there be anything else?

Tinman:well, now that you mention it...

Make my tin castle glint,
While I'm absent...


so the song starts out just as a solo by the tinman and the servant is playing along by humming bass notes.

Over the next four iterations of the chorus and verse we bring in the scarecrow and then woot and work our way out of the castle where there's the crowd of winkies who all join in singing at the end.

They're always changing setting throughout the song and not just standing on the drawbridge; that's why I'm looking some other lines to use in the chorus besides

Off at dawn, the bridge is drawn...

That's the scheme. cool.gif Just need some details to make it work.
PF_Mark
The scenes of servant polishing his back was cut. This was given too me by Martin to give me something to practise on tell I could be given something which was not cut. I like the scene and I am trying to get it back into the movie that is why I am asking to keep in mind that it's almost done and ready to be used if we think we can work it back in. So did you like my suggestion for the wording of the song?
robcat2075
QUOTE(PF_Mark @ Sep 28 2006, 01:42 AM) *

So did you like my suggestion for the wording of the song?


I like that line

So watch this place and keep the faith

although it wasn't exactly what I had in mind for

No need to stop the show...

I was thinking the mob of winkies at the end might be singing

We've heard the song, it's running long
No need to stop the show


got any more?

Silly notions are allowed too since we're just brainstorming right now. smile.gif

PF_Mark
Yes with the winkies sing that vers it does not fit I thought you wanted a 2nd vers for the tinman and servant sorry. Now just off the top of my sleepy head for the winkies?

What if we put a really funny self pun gag and have two winkies singing too each other.


scare crows sings


We’re off, we’re gone,

Tinman sings

It's time for us to go,

Winkie #1 turns to winkiew #2

We've heard the song, it's running long ohmy.gif


Winkie #2 turns to winkie #1

and it's really quite a silly song biggrin.gif

Tinman hears there singing takes a depth breath maybe with a head shake one hand up to for head

No need to stop the show (no I don't like that one )

Alright Alright Lets GO

end of song.

I think we need to spell out exactly what the characters are doing while they are singing and we need to get some puns and gags in there to get the people laughing. Like the lion king songs with the Farting gag lines
jandals
Take a holiday
while I'm away
and sleep through half the day

Keep out the dust
Don't let it rust
and polish when you must

The part with the winkees would be pretty funny. smile.gif
robcat2075
Good ideas, keep them coming!

QUOTE
I think we need to spell out exactly what the characters are doing while they are singing and we need to get some puns and gags in there to get the people laughing.
Yes, I should try to put together a thumbnail storyboard so you can see where this is going.



MattWBradbury
I made the mistake of singing along with the song. Big MISTAKE! Got stuck in my head and now I can't get it out. ph34r.gif

Are they going to be holding arms and skipping down the trail like in the wizard of oz?
robcat2075
QUOTE(MattWBradbury @ Sep 29 2006, 01:16 AM) *

I made the mistake of singing along with the song. Big MISTAKE! Got stuck in my head and now I can't get it out. ph34r.gif


That's a bad thing?

Well, when Martin and I pick up the Oscar for best song, you'll be able to say to your friends "I was sick of that song when it was just a demo!"
PF_Mark
Just curious how this is going to work so we have a piano playing song by Robert and lyrics and simple note music sheet. Is the person that is doing the music going to take what Robert has and write and record then we add singing to it from Voice actors then once we have that we start animating?

or do we want to block this out with with your own voice recordings and put together a rough take one then edit and tweak that?

can you attach updated song and have the something, something were you want us to help I am starting to lose track were we are biggrin.gif
robcat2075
QUOTE(PF_Mark @ Sep 29 2006, 12:13 PM) *

Just curious how this is going to work


This is still in the larval stage. It's not certain yet that we will even have this song in the movie.

But my notion is to create a recording that includes all the verses and choruses we intend to use. That would be enough to storyboard and animate to since the tempo wouldn't change even after we rerecord it with the actual voices.
PF_Mark
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Sep 30 2006, 06:10 AM) *

QUOTE(PF_Mark @ Sep 29 2006, 12:13 PM) *

Just curious how this is going to work


This is still in the larval stage. It's not certain yet that we will even have this song in the movie.

But my notion is to create a recording that includes all the verses and choruses we intend to use. That would be enough to storyboard and animate to since the tempo wouldn't change even after we rerecord it with the actual voices.


Let me know what else I can do to help I am working on this sequ alot now and I really want to get my hands into this. Lets go for it! wink.gif
robcat2075
QUOTE
Let me know what else I can do to help
All i need to find right now is the enthusiasm to spend hours and hours alone in my room putting it together.IPB Image
PF_Mark
QUOTE(robcat2075 @ Oct 9 2006, 01:59 AM) *

QUOTE
Let me know what else I can do to help
All i need to find right now is the enthusiasm to spend hours and hours alone in my room putting it together.IPB Image


Martin's in charge of enthusiasm just E-mail him and ask him to send you a cup of Enthusiasm laugh.gif . I would lend you some of mine but I am running low right now sorry rolleyes.gif

What if the two of us confront Martin in tommorows meeting dry.gif and try to get an answear for the extra 2 minutes you think this song will add to the movie. He doesn't seem the type of person that can be pushed around to easliy but hay there are two of us and one of him laugh.gif Once we know it's in this might help boost the Enthusiasm?
robcat2075
Behold, the often rumored, but never previously heard "complete" version of "We're Off, We're Gone" including bells, whistles, and numerous distraught Winkies.

There is still much to be improved about this but it is the whole song from beginning to end:

Click to view attachment

I'm pleased with how the Winkie band came out. I was stumped on that for quite a while.


Thanks to everyone who sent me a Winkie voice; I used them all!

And now I need a nap.
KenH
Haha....that came out well. Good work. You deserve a rest. But back to work straight after!
martin
Bravo!
Rodney
<insert superlatives here>

Thats simply outstanding.
Or as Scarecrow would say... "Well... Done. Very nice indeed."
KenH
When woot asks the chorus to wait, instead of modelling characters for all those voices, they could be behind the camera.....where Woot looks/cringes. I think it would also keep with some of the theme of some of the lines in the song which point out that a movie is being made here. Perhaps the camera could shake too at this point from the camera man being so shocked at his error. biggrin.gif

Again, nice work. I hope it keeps at least this level of fun with the new voices of the other characters.
higginsdj
Guys, thats brilliant. First pass through and I have a broad smile on my face.

I'm assuming the second half of the song is in the Winkee village (or somewhere there are lots of Winkees). The music sounds like it comes from an unusual instrument. Are we going to see Winkees playing musical instruments in the streets? and are there going to be any unusual instruments?

Cheers
robcat2075
Thanks! I wanted to make something that seemed like it might be in the spirit of an MGM musical like the Wizard of Oz without being too self-serious.

QUOTE(higginsdj @ Feb 28 2007, 08:10 PM) *
I'm assuming the second half of the song is in the Winkee village (or somewhere there are lots of Winkees).


Winkies as far as the eye can see. I think if we had about six similar but not identical winkies that would be enough to fill up the front row of any crowd scene and winkies behind them could be image mapped "hair".

This could be in winkie town, or they could be coming from the nearby fields where they were working (at dawn apparently) to prop up the agrarian economy for their tin-fisted ruler.

QUOTE
The music sounds like it comes from an unusual instrument. Are we going to see Winkees playing musical instruments in the streets? and are there going to be any unusual instruments?
The beginning is a concertina played by TinServant.

After that, I'm thinking there's a parade going on to march TinWoodsman and Co. out of town. There would certainly be room for odd-looking instruments.

Click to view attachmentClick to view attachment
higginsdj
Do they need modeling? I think they will need to be like the one on the left - ie obviously different - as there is likely to be too much else going on to expect the audience to pick out detail.

Here is an excellent place to start:
http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/om01000.html

This one looks perfect....
Edit - Actually it has a whole swag of tin instruments in there......

Cheers
robcat2075
QUOTE(higginsdj @ Mar 2 2007, 09:19 PM) *
Here is an excellent place to start:
http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/om01000.html


I love the bamboo saxophones on that site. Look like something from Gilligan's Island.

And a bit of music history I just read there...

QUOTE
As playing the saw requires a strong left hand, most players were men, though one well known lady saw player was actress Marlene Dietrich. She has played the saw at her performances for the soldiers during WWII, in a movie, on radio, and for friends at parties.


Now I have to get a musical saw!
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