Gene
Mar 11 2006, 03:31 PM
Hello Everyone,
I have made a tutorial with Camtasia and turned it into a Flash (SWF) video which you can download from my site. I don't know how long I will keep it up on my site, but I am hoping that someone at Hash will make it available from their server.
The link is:
Magnifying GlassPlease send me any comments which you may have.
Regards,
Eugene
KenH
Mar 11 2006, 04:17 PM
Nice. I never could get that right. Now I know why. Thanks.
johnl3d
Mar 11 2006, 04:42 PM
Excellent work as usual !
nimblepix
Mar 11 2006, 05:10 PM
Very clear and precise.
Thanks for putting this together Gene.
ddustin
Mar 11 2006, 05:11 PM
Another good one Gene!
aaver
Mar 12 2006, 07:25 AM
Nice tutorial with great info!
Your tutorials has a the right pace (at least for me) and you also have a very pleasant voice. Thank you for your time!
My own experience when it comes to modeling a lens is to try to make the shape as realistic as possible in order to avoid distortions. This has already been discussed at length in
this thread and there is also a
movie and
project file to play with if you like to
Stuart Rogers
Mar 12 2006, 03:16 PM
QUOTE(Gene @ Mar 11 2006, 11:31 PM)

Please send me any comments which you may have.
A nice, clear demonstration.
Real glass usually has an index of refraction of about 1.5 or so (depending on the type of glass) rather than the 1.15 you used. I'm sure you knew that already, and that your figure was based on what looks good rather than reality.
MMZ_TimeLord
Mar 12 2006, 04:31 PM
Here's my version after following the tutorial... I put a pose slider on two bones to alter the thickness of the lens.
In the tutorial, the reason for the distortion of the bug, is because the curve on the lens was not true. I took the right half of a sphere and turned it 90 degrees then duplicated it and used it for my lens.
This keeps the lens more true.
Here is a movie of the pose slider going from 0% to 100% and the project. Enjoy
Gene
Mar 12 2006, 06:13 PM
Hey Everyone,
Thanks for the comments...
I know there are a million ways to do the same thing in AM and everyone has there own preferences...which is really great because you can learn a lot of new things by doing the same thing differently each time!
Cheers,
Eugene
c-wheeler
Mar 13 2006, 01:51 AM
Thanks Eugene
I appreciate your work on these tutorials. I always find the, wel paced and easy to follow(well mostly)
Chris
steve392
Mar 13 2006, 02:21 AM
Thank's Gene another nice tut ,very usefull and well done ,cheers
Stuart Rogers
Mar 13 2006, 04:49 AM
QUOTE(MMZ_TimeLord @ Mar 13 2006, 12:31 AM)

In the tutorial, the reason for the distortion of the bug, is because the curve on the lens was not true. I took the right half of a sphere and turned it 90 degrees then duplicated it and used it for my lens.
[nit-picking] Even a perfectly spherical real world lens will have distortions - try Googling for "spherical aberration" - light rays passing through the outer regions of the lens will focus at a different distance from the lens than those rays passing through the inner regions (resulting in blurring).[/nit-picking] To be honest, for A:M it's not critical, and I think a small amount of distortion gives some weight to selling the magnifying glass effect.
oakchas
Mar 13 2006, 07:55 AM
Gene thanks for the tutorial... It certainly gives me a great starting point.. BTW, If you put a sun above the lens, does the bug go up in smoke? (Just kidding)
Thanks again!
MMZ... why does the object in the upper left move when you are moving the pose slider..? it is almost as though the lens is in front of the camera rather than the handheld glass (framed by the black ring) magnifying the bug.
Rodney
Mar 13 2006, 02:37 PM
Incredible. I was thinking the other day about tracking down an old tutorial on magnification in A:M.
Now you post your tutorial and others have helped by adding even more great info.
Many thanks for this!
(Doin' Vern's happy dance!)
Rodney
MMZ_TimeLord
Mar 13 2006, 03:37 PM
Stuart,
I wasn't nitpicking, just pointing out a fact. A lathed surface in A:M will have that 'join point' in the center. Plus the rings making up the surface weren't spaced to get a 'nearly' perfect curve. It was more of a plateau, so we witnessed more distortion.
I was just showing how to get a more optically correct curve on a surface for those who might be interested.

Oakchas,
The 'object' you are seeing in the animation is actually the shadow of the magnifying glass I made. The lens mesh is actually changing shape and causing more magnification, just as real glass with more pronounced curves will do. You were seeing the shadow of that glass changing shape.
I'd also like to point out that Eugene has made an EXCELLENT tutorial that I could only dream of producing and I was only trying to expand on his idea.
Stuart Rogers
Mar 14 2006, 04:26 AM
QUOTE(MMZ_TimeLord @ Mar 13 2006, 11:37 PM)

I wasn't nitpicking,
Actually, I was trying to indicate that *I* was nitpicking!
Stuart, President of the Pedants, Nitpickers, and Associated Quibblers Society.
aaver
Mar 14 2006, 05:07 AM
I just realized that the project file I referred to
earlier in this thread actually has a rather important error. Probably no one has noticed, but hopefully the project file is correct now.
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Gorf
Mar 14 2006, 08:58 AM
Slightly offtopic, but I won a Wallace & Gromit DVD using a scene rendered out in Animation Master. It wasn't the £10,000 first prize, but it was still worth entering.
The idea was to "invent" a tea-making contraption. One of the features of my invention was a magnifying glass that starts the whole heating process.
One day I'll have the time to animate it...
Stuart Rogers
Mar 14 2006, 09:56 AM
QUOTE(Gorf @ Mar 14 2006, 04:58 PM)

Slightly offtopic, but I won a Wallace & Gromit DVD using a scene rendered out in Animation Master. ... The idea was to "invent" a tea-making contraption. One of the features of my invention was a magnifying glass that starts the whole heating process.
One day I'll have the time to animate it...
Surely you have the time to post a still of it...?
Stuart Rogers
Mar 14 2006, 10:46 AM
On a related note, there was some discussion here a couple of years ago about creating dispersion effects for glass. For those that know nothing about dispersion, it's the phenomena by which the index of refraction for a given material depends upon the wavelength (read:colour) of the impinging light. Still confused? Think about how a prism splits white light into its component colours. Another way of seeing it is that different colours get magnified differently.
Anyway, Marcel Bricman outlined a technique (one using a plug-in he wrote, another without using the plug-in). I followed this up with an animated test. My original post to this can be found
here - as I write this, the links to Marcel's instructions and to my test anim still work.
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