Just getting started...

Finally made some progress now that Ku-Klip is about done. Made a few changes to my model based on the Woot WIP so here's what I've got so far. Working on rendering a hair test as well...

Kevin

I have yet to model a human head or semi human, but that sure looks good to me. It feels like sketch is coming to life. I'll enjoy checking on your progress. Great job.

Kevin,

That looks great! No comments here!

Keep going.

Thanks,

Jim

looks great Kevin
just a heads up the monkey may end up in oranges and yellows the bear may end up green thiinking about the hair
BobT

Holy crap! Well, I'm glad you're working on it, and not me . Great job.

Thanks guys, made some more progress, I think I'm going to tackle the hat next (even though that will need to be the same as the woot model).



No problem Bob, hair color is probably the easiest thing to change.

Kevin

Looks nice! one suggestion, though. it might be better to make the body a little longer, and use the posing to get that hunched-over look. His torso seems so short he wouldn't have much range of motion for stretching out to reach or jump or whatever.

Keep up the good work!

matt

Very cute little monkey! Great stuff, Kevin!

Looks great! The only thing that I am not sure about is that his butt looks very high up compared to his groin. Maybe monkeys are like that?

I agree that his torso could be a little longer.

I can't wait to see some fur on this guy!

Jim

Nice work Kevin. I'm also not getting the morphing of hats/ no hat on some characters but on others after the change either.

good point Matt, I'll go ahead and stretch it out.



Thanks Jim, I'll try to adjust his butt (I really don't know much about Monkey's butts) since it does look odd now that you mention it. I'll post a side and front wireframe next time to give you a better feel for the overall proportions...hair coming soon...

Kevin

Actually they should all carry their own hats for ID .The model looks great Kevin I agree with the body comments,should be a little longer,and not so shapely its getting very real looking remember to keep the characature look.
BobT

Thanks Bob. I'll also try to make his body more angular/caricature-looking like Jim's sketch, I have a tendancy to smooth my organic models out too much ... I've been working on it but it keeps cropping back up. Are you still playing with hair color ideas?

Kevin

H Kevin
The idea is to keep the oridginal film colors for audience Id purposes.That puts Woot in the colors of the lion so that puts the monkey in the lions colors as well, golds yellows browns etc.
BobT

He's looknig great so far. No comments but that, since others pointed stuff out.

Guess will have to change the topic title from "Green Monkey" to "Lion Monkey".

Ok, made a bunch of changes to his body based on the comments. Let me know if this is better. Thanks.

Kevin

Kevin,

Fantastic! I think it's dead on.

One question though, are his forearms shaped like that to help control the fur shape? They do match my sketch showing the fur, but they're a little funny looking without the fur.

Jim

Nice work Kevin !

I'm wondering about primate proportion of this model
Here some suggest about that topic

Thanks
Al

I tend to agree with both prior posts I think it is looking remarkable and aAains suggestions are good ones your almost there nice job!
BobT

Cool, thanks Al and Bob, I'll make those changes tonight (and fix his forearms Jim, they were pretty weird looking - I gave him some popeye-like forearms that didn't quite fit)...

Kevin

Should I really make his hands that big? They can probably be a little bigger but I'm starting to think they will look HUGE compared to the rest of his body if I make them as big as Al's sketch.

Kevin,

I think they can be a little bigger than what they are at the moment. Scale them up to what you think looks good and then give us a look. They don't necessarily have to be the size Alain drew, because the green monkey shouldn't look very realistic.

Jim

As nice a s that tail looks you may want to keep it straight out so it can be figure 8 animated.
\BobT

No problem Bob, I'll make it straight before I'm finished...

Ok, here's the latest update to the monkey. I made the tail straight, made the forearms longer, made the hands bigger, lowered the knees, and added feet (which still need a bunch of work). Let me know what you think. Thanks.

Kevin

He looks great to me. My only comment would be the feet could be a little longer for grabbing etc.Great Job.
BobT

It looks great to me, too! Maybe just the toes/fingers on the feet could be longer.

We want fur! We want fur! We want fur! We want fur!....

Jim

It's coming, it's coming!

Here is with updated feet and a new hat (which still needs tweaking). And now onto the hair...

Kevin

Awww! He's so cute.
Excellent modelling, Kevin!

Have you tried putting fur on him yet?

Very cool ! He looks eady to create havoc.Excellent job.
BobT

Good work. He even looks like a monkized Woot. What colour is his fur again?

Haha, that's is perfect!

Ken: I think he's going to be "lion" colored.

OK, So do we assume Director has approved, modelling complete and ready to rig? Who is going to rig him?

Cheers

He is approved David
BT

Cool (though I still wanted to finish up the hat and add fur but that can probably be done after rigging). So who gets him now? Jim?

Yes sir on the Jim.
thanx again for a great model.
BT

Do we have a design for the Mrs Yoop version of Green Monkey?

David she, mrs yoop, turns woot in to the green monkey... so im not quite sure I understan your question?
BT

I think David is referring to the final scene (not sure it's still in the movie) where Mrs Yoop is turned into a green monkey so that Woot can be Wootie looking again.

Here's what's in the animatic.

Jim

Hee hee...

Bob has not watched the animatic!



Actually... it would be kind of funny to just use the exact same green monkey and stick that "bun" on its head in a dress... change his "look" through facial expressions and body language...

... or not...

Vernon "!" Zehr

oooopppppppssssss.Memory is the second thing to go .
BT...I think

Maybe I missed a change to the Script but in the story isn't there a problem with changing Green Monkey back to Woot because there always has to be a green monkey in Oz and right at the end, Ozma brings woot back having changed Mrs Yoop into Green Monkey?

David

Read on David. I assume you missed the other replies because they were on another page....