Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Advanced Lathing Methodologies
Hash, Inc. Forums > Technical Direction and Development (Learning Animation:Master) > A:M Tutorials and Demonstrations > Modeling
Rodney
Important Note: As of v15 the SHIFT CLICK method of accessing the Tools/Options menu has been replaced by CTRL CLICK.

Here is another tutorial. This one just under 350KB in size.
It's a quick one too... you can get through it in minutes.

I didn't quite get all the things I wanted to into this one but... hey... it's a start.

Note: Something added to this tutorial late in the game was the SHIFT CLICK method of going directly to the cross section dialog in Tools/Options menu. You can get there by SHIFT clicking the lathe icon if you have already created and selected a spline. That is quicker than going to through the Tools menu. Thanks for the reminder Ken!

Note: This tutorial has been updated and edited.
pancho simpson
say, how about wmv´s?
heyvern
AAHHHHHHHHGGGGGG!!!!!!

When did the lathe tool get... get... HOLY COW!

Did it always work like this? Or am I going insane?

I have always assumed the y axis was the base for all lathing. I am hoping this is a new feature so I won't feel like such an idiot.

Please tell me this is a new feature...

p.s. I really really need to upgrade.... sheesh...

Vernon "!" Zehr
Rodney
QUOTE
Please tell me this is a new feature...


Vern... I am so sorry to say this has long been a function of lathing.
I refuse to tell you how long on the grounds that you may hurt me.

ph34r.gif
Rodney
Pablo queried:
QUOTE
say, how about wmv´s?


WMVs are an option... however there are a lot of people who cannot view them.
I believe that Mac users have to install a player to view WMVs but I might be mistaken.

-Rodney
pancho simpson
yep, they'd have to install the player. Sorry, i didn't think it was a flash file, i thought i'd be some huge .mov
Obnomauk
QUOTE (heyvern @ Apr 23 2005, 01:41 AM)

Did it always work like this? Or am I going insane?

/me notifies the men in the nice white coats about vern.

Pivots are the single most powerful modeling concept there is IMHO smile.gif once you learn how to use em scaling, lathing, and rotating take on new and wonderful powers (oh the joys of rotating with a properly placed pivot and the judicious use of the axis constraint keys!)

having championed the knowledge of lathing off the Y-axis for years it's nice to see Rodney take up the torch smile.gif (it's been a lonely campaign!)

-David
Rodney
Thanks David! smile.gif

I admit I don't use the power of the pivot manipulators nearly enough.
I keep telling myself I will use them more often though.
Rodney
For those interested...

A minor update has been posted at the above link and the attachment has been replaced for those that prefer a download.

The primary changes are some wording and the inclusion of the SHIFT selecting of the Lathe Icon as a workflow tip. Rather than rerecord the tutorial I opted to update the text. Thanks again Ken!

Where these techniques really pay off is if you model in a choreography window ( I must admit I usually don't). Your workflow will increase dramatically by knowing what tools are available to you.

Best,
Rodney
Kamikaze
Thanks Rodney,

These tutorials are always a help.....Even though I use AM as a hobbiest it also helps to keep my mind sharper as I age besides I take medications that seem to dull my senses and these tutorials ,yours and others help me through the days..
thats why I try my best to say thanks when someone takes the time to do a tutorial for us AMers

Michael
Rodney
Thanks Michael,

I'm a hobbyist too!
Knowing that someone gets something out of the effort makes me want to do more. I'm sure other tutorial creators are no different.

I admit my knowledge is pretty basic, those more experienced than me can squeeze even more usefulness out of such simple things as lathing.

The basic elements I personally would like to explore in more depth are:
- Drawing
- Stitching
- Lathing
- Extrusion

Some of these have been covered pretty well already but I'd like to collect that information into one easy to access area for all to enjoy.

I'm trying to follow in the footsteps of a great many others who have put together some wonderful tutorials and shared their experiences with us.

There is so much more to explore. smile.gif
Paul Forwood
Nice tutorial, Rodney! smile.gif
NancyGormezano
Very well done tutorial - great new info for me - Lots of us seem to be working in AM physically isolated from other Hashimites - so it a great eye opener & terrific resource to see the tricks that others have discovered in the virtual 'hood. Thanks Rodney, for all you have done.
hartmanfx
Rodney,

As a noob I just want to let you (and the other members making the tutorials) know how much I appreciate and enjoy the tutorials.

It still amazes me how helpful this community is... and you people are the best.

So please, all of you making these video tuts - keep doing it.

You may not get immediate feedback for your work but just know that there are dozens of frustrated AM users whose efforts at learning just became a little easier.

I myself look over, watch, and save every tut file I can for reference.

Once again thanks.

Steve Hartman
Rodney
Thanks for the kind words everyone! Much appreciated.

It looks like more and more people are discovering how easy it is to use Wink to put together a tutorial and share information.

There is a lot more potential in the process too.
I'm now convinced that honing one's tutorial making skills also serves to improve our storytelling abilities. At least I think it does.

People could also use Wink (or similar program) to demonstrate problems they are having with A:M as well. Imagine viewing the steps as someone says... "This is what I do first... then this... then Aaaagh!", "What am I doing wrong?"

Solutions reveal themselves much quicker when people have the same information in front of them.

Communicating the message... that's what its all about. smile.gif
GAngus
Rodney,
I have been working through your "Advanced Spline" wink and something is not working for me here.
According to your tut, if I create a simple 2-point spline in a front view, and then move it's pivot say, to the left of the y-axis somewhere and actually to the left of the spline also,
I can then simply hit the Lathe command (L-key) or Lathe Icon and Lathe the spline around where I moved it's pivot ?
Well, for me the lathe option is not available at that point for some reason (it is grayed out and not selectable). Am I missing a step here ?
I tried naming that spline group first, then moving the pivot and it still does not work.
Please just tell me what I am doing wrong, I am quite sure I am following the Wink to the Tee.
I just love these tuts and you have been a wealth of information for the AM community over the years,
Thanks much
Rodney
QUOTE
Well, for me the lathe option is not available at that point for some reason (it is grayed out and not selectable). Am I missing a step here ?


First... thanks for the thanks!
This tutorial is representative of my experience with A:M.
I had used A:M for years before I knew you could escape the Y axis and lathe anywhere you want.
With this and similar techniques you can even lathe (and therefore model) in a Choreography.

I believe the step you are missing is that of selecting the whole spline and NOT properly using the comma key.
If you select the entire spline you cannot lathe. As you have confirmed the lathe key will be unavailable.
Instead click on the spline and whack* the comma key.
You should see the Lathe key activate.


*Whack effect courtesy of and most likely copyright/TM Jeff Cantin. wink.gif
GAngus
"I believe the step you are missing is that of selecting the whole spline and NOT properly using the comma key.
If you select the entire spline you cannot lathe. As you have confirmed the lathe key will be unavailable.
Instead click on the spline and whack* the comma key.
You should see the Lathe key activate."

Ahhh, that was it, I was sure I missed a step.
I must re-work some of my modeling habits, it seems.
Such an important step, as this point changes the whole situation.
Thank you so much.
Rodney
My pleasure Gerald.
Sometimes I forget too. Thanks for reminding me! smile.gif
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2012 Invision Power Services, Inc.