TWO Hash TWO Movie http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php Wed, 16 May 2012 21:08:47 -0700 15 TWO http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php particle clouds http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29237
So, what do you think? Too fast? Not random enough? Or something else?]]> mtpeak2 dblhelix Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:31:35 -0700 29237 <![CDATA["The Tin Woodman of Oz" plays Hammond (Louisiana, not the organ)]]> http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38713
QUOTE(NancyGormezano @ Sep 28 2010, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sooooooo ???? How was the drive ?
I'm afraid the Interstate looks pretty much the same all over. By day it's tolerable. Coming back at night it was like the old driving video games where all you see is the stripes on the road.

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What's Hammond like ? How was the gumbo ?
Seems like classic small town with a state university right next to it. I ate as cheap as possible so it was all Wendy's.

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What did you wear ?


I was determined to do the festival promo thing so i made this special occasion TWO shirt.

front:


back:



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and....oh yeah....How was the festival/screening ?


I got there in time to check in before the first show on Friday evening.

My official festival badge and one of my TWO promotional cards:



They had a "drama" program in one venue and a "comedy" program in the other where TWO was going to be shown the next day so i went the comedy route. The shorts on the program (all live action except for one) were mostly unmemorable. The two features (both live action) were pretty good.

You People was about some people who create a "racism" board game. The acting was a bit "B-" but still, a funny concept that mostly works.

Dynamite Swine was much better. I'd describe it as a caper movie about a guy trying to dispose of an impossible gambling debt. Impressively fast-paced except for the end.

Saturday morning was the "Children's" program. I was very doubtful about the idea of a 9:00am Saturday morning time for a Children's Film program. Who is going to be brave enough to drag their kids away from the TV and the video game machine to go see stuff they've never heard of? But parents with children in tow did arrive.

I got worried again during the first few short subjects that preceded TWO. They were definitely not holding the kids' attention. They were talking to their parents, rustling with their popcorn, getting in and out of their chairs.

When my turn came I was prepared to introduce TWO by talking about the animation process, and A:M and the SVN thing but i could see this was not the crowd for that. So I quickly mentioned TWO was based on the book by the same guy who wrote "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz", I mentioned my own part as animator (three whole minutes!), song writer (two!) and voice of the Scarecrow, and also that TWO is the first ever animated feature completed by an internet collaboration.

Once TWO got going things quieted down. The kids stopped talking, they stopped messing with their popcorn, they stayed in their chairs and watched the screen.




The Hammond Regional Art Center is normally an art gallery, re-purposed as a movie theater for this occasion. Here you can see TWO up on the wall with the other art. The room was much darker than it appears here, I shot this with a long exposure so you could see something besides the screen.



TWO looks good big!


One girl did start crying during the Tin Head in the cabinet sequence, I don't know if it was because of that. Her aside, i got the sense that they were all following it and into it. Everyone applauded when the credits rolled.

Immediately after TWO I hosted the "Tin Woodman of Oz Quiz" where audience members could win TWO DVDs and TWO-Shirts for remembering key details of TWO.

See how you do on this...

Quiz category: The Scarecrow.

Q: Who prefers to be stuffed with straw? (drag over the black box to see the answer)
A: [spoiler]The Scarecrow![/spoiler]

Q: Which character stopped Woot from puncturing the King Loon?
A: [spoiler]....The Scarecrow![/spoiler]

Q: When Woot first meets the Tin Woodman, who is playing chess by himself on the side?
A: [spoiler]..The Scarecrow![/spoiler]

Q: What character gets turned into a straw bear?
A: [spoiler]The Scarecrow![/spoiler]

Q: What character do I (Robert Holmén) provide the voice for?
A: [spoiler]The Scarecrow![/spoiler]

Q: Who is the most important character in "The Tin Woodman of Oz"?
A: [spoiler]........The Scarecrow![/spoiler]


This clever young man was one of the TWO-shirt winners and immediately put it on.




The prize shirts were like mine but with the Tin Heart on the front (with no text) and the TWO logo on the back.

After TWO there were a few more short subjects including the rather longish "Jasper Goes to Bishop" which mostly succeeded in reducing the size of the audience. TWO was certainly the highlight of the morning program. Afterward, several adults sought me out to tell me how much they liked TWO. One woman really, really liked it, "Your film was magical!" she said.

And, out of the blue, I got this comment on Facebook later:

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My son won one of the t-shirts yesterday. He loves it and is still wearing it. He's also been talking non-stop about the film. Is it available anywhere?


The afternoon shows were "Experimental" and "The Best of the Fest". I went to the latter.

The top-prize winning Comedy was I Ran Against Us, a live action feature, where Iran threatens war with the US unless this guy and his ex-girl friend get back together. Very well put together and amusing despite the iffy premise.

I didn't really get into "Chasing Che", the winning documentary feature, by and about an Iranian man who decides to re trace the path of Che Guevara's life. He never really explained why this was important or why Che Guevara is significant in Iran.

I also wasn't real big on "Natasha" a 30 minute drama that consists almost entirely of a guy talking on the porch at a party with his ex-girlfriend, trying to figure out why she's not into him. Turns out... she's just not into him.

List of all films on Festival

Next was the informal dinner where the various film makers got their awards.

Here, festival directors Martie Fellom (left) and Alan Marsh present A:M Films with a "Silver" award for Children's Feature:



It's even laminated, so it's dishwasher safe!

I'll try to think of a way to make a downloadable, and printable version so everyone can have one for their wall.


Their award structure is a bit different than most festivals. They give a "Platinum" to things they regard as top notch, and some "Gold" to things that were also very well done, and everything else that was good enough to make the festival program is a "Silver". So that's why TWO is a "Silver" Children's Feature even though it was the only Children's Feature. I would have shown up even for a "Pewter" award, I'm happy that TWO got even this small recognition.


All of the live action features I saw were very well done in writing and directing and technique (and most of the acting) and just as entertaining as as the movies labeled comedy we see at the malls, with none of the obvious continuity and performance problems that TWO has so I'm flattered that TWO was even programmed. However, they probably don't have any more chance at real distribution than TWO does. A little bit too niche subject matter and, obviously, no stars.

On the other hand Robert Rodriguez got noticed making shoestring features that were just as niche and starless as the features I saw here. Maybe there's a chance for them. But I won't bet on it.

The most deflating part... hearing how "long" it took for these guys to shoot their films. 14 days for "I Ran Against Us"! That's probably long for a production where no one's getting paid and, of course, there's Pre- and Post production on top of that but still... there's nothing like that in animation. Now I know the real reason Brad Bird wants to do live action.

On an absolute level TWO is not a finely made film, but on a practical level it seems to work with an audience that wants to be entertained. They like the characters, they like the songs, they like the story. Certainly we've all sat thru professional productions that didn't hit those marks. (can anyone actually remember any song that Phil Collins wrote for a Disney movie?)

I'm glad I got the chance to see TWO with an audience and see them enjoy it first hand and I wish you all could do that too. Thank you to everyone who contributed to TWO, even the not-finely-made elements smile.gif , because it wouldn't be a movie without them.
]]> robcat2075 TheSpleen Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:30:25 -0700 38713 TWO Sheet? http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30434 This particular time it settled on the idea of TWO posters.

Anyone have any ideas or images laying around that would classify as promotional material for TWO?
I'm not suggesting any be used in actual promotion of TWO but I know we have some very creative minds here in the A:M Forum.

(If you are busy animating on TWO this isn't really meant for you but post 'em if you've got 'em... then get back to work!) tongue.gif

After creating the attached I noted a few possible improvements:

Loonville Poster
Add Tin Woodman, Scarecrow and Woot into the scene.
Improve the Loonville title; changing it to "Don't go into Loonville"

Witch Poster
Update the Witch to with her fancy new textures (ala Nancy Gormezano)
Pose her so she is facing away from the audience and looking back over her shoulder.
Change the title to "The Wicked Witch's Back!" (Ha! Get it? We are looking at her back? The witch's back? Um... no?)

Yeah... I understand she's not that wicked witch, and no she really isn't back in the movie.
But she does make an appearance in a flashBACK!
Ah well, its only a poster.

Top that you slackers! cool.gif]]> Rodney Rodney Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:39:28 -0800 30434 Dorothy of Oz http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38253 http://www.collider.com/2010/06/17/dorothy...kelsey-grammer/


Thought this was interesting...]]> zandoriastudios TheSpleen Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:18:07 -0700 38253 <![CDATA["The Tin Woodman of Oz" will get a theatrical premiere!]]> http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38582

"The Tin Woodman of Oz" has received a "Silver" award for "Children's Feature" and will be screened at the JamFest 2010 Indie Film Festival in Hammond Louisiana on a program of Children's Films, Saturday morning September 25 9:00AM-11:45AM





Congratulations to the whole TWO crew, you are now "award-winning" film makers!

Thanks to Martin for funding the festival applications. So far we have two rejections, one acceptance and five more to hear from in the coming months.


Hammond is a bit on the outer edge of what I might be able to drive to, but I might do it none-the-less. Does anyone else live in the vicinity?]]> robcat2075 robcat2075 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:33:44 -0700 38582 TWO characters available to the public? http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38729 I'd like to use them for a little animation.
(I used to have them on my hard drive but lost them when I had to reformat...)]]> thekamps animas3D Sat, 02 Oct 2010 07:52:41 -0700 38729 <![CDATA[Where is TinWoodman's Red mechanical Heart?]]> http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38692
I'm looking for the red version that is in the movie.]]> robcat2075 robcat2075 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:45:12 -0700 38692 TWO 2.0 http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38238
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]]> robcat2075 NancyGormezano Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:47:10 -0700 38238 TWOers http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32385

Since the forum is a bit slow at the moment, I would like to ask
what the actual state of TWO is:

How far is the movie from being finished?

Has it been sold yet?

Is it interesting to take part only for learning purposes or
is it possible to make some decent extra money as well?


When will the production of the sequel start?

Jake?

]]> jakerupert Rodney Thu, 29 May 2008 01:42:12 -0700 32385 Does anyone live near Hammond, Louisiana? http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38557 Hammond, Louisiana is that close enough that you'd make the trip?]]> robcat2075 robcat2075 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:53:40 -0700 38557 Did you work on TWO? Is there a festival near YOU? http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38095
However I think it might also be advantageous to submit to festivals where someone who worked on TWO would be a local talent angle. They always seem to ask if a film-maker might be in attendance.

Festivals with no or low entry fees are particularly good to hear about.

So, TWO person, let me know below if there's a festival near you that you might attend.

No guarantees of course, there is a finite budget on this endeavor, but it's something I'd like to have in mind as I plot this out.









]]> robcat2075 HomeSlice Wed, 19 May 2010 11:09:29 -0700 38095 The shot that never was http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38316
We might presume something made him curious but it's never explained and the whole effect is rather abrupt.

My original plan was that he went to get a closer look at the scary forest and had this brief exchange:

http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=51798]]> robcat2075 zandoriastudios Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:27:09 -0700 38316 How do I solve this SVN error? http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38297

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Error: Can't copy 'D:\_BI_Projects\hash\2006Film\_TWO\data\Act1\Seq01-Opening\Sc28\Movies\.svn\text-base\_1_01_28.mov.svn-base' to 'D:\_BI_Projects\hash\2006Film\_TWO\data\Act1\Seq01-Opening\Sc28\Movies\.svn\tmp\_1_01_28.mov.tmp.tmp': No error



]]> robcat2075 HomeSlice Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:53:20 -0700 38297 Did you work on TWO... http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38291
]]> robcat2075 phatso Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:47:10 -0700 38291 Texturing request http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38283
http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=51725

It would have to be something that still lets the predominant surface color show thru. They're all the same model but they set themselves to different colors at the start of the sequence.

Probably something with an alpha channel that adds buttons or seams or laces or cuffs. Something to make them look less flat.]]> robcat2075 Rodney Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:28:06 -0700 38283 Model request: Tin Servant Hair http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38281 coif?

Make it a model that I could drop into the chor and constrain to his head bone and it would pop into the same place as his particle hair.

If you want to texture it to look like it has hair strands that would be a nice extra, but I think just flat black might pass.

Maybe there's a version of him sitting around already where he had modeled hair and that could be extracted. I dimly recall something like that.



I don't know why, but there seems to be no way for me to get a frame rendered with his real hair ON.

(I'm trying to do a render of the parade scene)

thanks]]> robcat2075 robcat2075 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:34:35 -0700 38281 A Hare question http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38193
Is there a reason his hair materials have the hair splines set to 6 CPs? That's a lot for such short hair, isn't it?]]> robcat2075 robcat2075 Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:16:34 -0700 38193 Does TWO have a website? http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38130
http://wiki.hash.com/index.php?title=Main_Page_Two


But is there one with a more TWO-the-movie-Coming-to-a-Theater-Near-You look?]]> robcat2075 HomeSlice Tue, 25 May 2010 10:30:42 -0700 38130 <![CDATA[I've finally seen TWO!]]> http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38112
I fired up my Sony SuperData EX projector, lowered the 8 foot screen, turned on the genuine stereo sound, turned off the lights and sat back to watch TWO.

Well, it's got a lot of awkward moments, and some story points that weren't quite clear but by gosh... it's a movie! It's an actual movie.

I'm disappointed it went forward without the whole "We're Off We're Gone" sequence. I don't think the fortunes of TWO would be any less today if it had waited.

And the shots in my sequence still didn't get edited together right. How did that happen?

But overall, it works for the most part. Hopefully some festivals somewhere will program TWO and audiences can see it.

]]> robcat2075 robcat2075 Fri, 21 May 2010 22:53:10 -0700 38112 SO/TWO SVN log in lost http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38106
I was working on something on the server side svn. And the file that holds all of the passwords was lost. I had a back up but was not able to recover them from that.

please email me your user name and password and i will re add them as i get the emails. I'm really sorry for the mix up and i'm not sure how the back up failed.

There was no loss of data it's still all as it was. just the password file was lost.

please email jason@hash.com]]> Jason Simonds Jason Simonds Thu, 20 May 2010 22:55:11 -0700 38106 View count of TWO on Youtube http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35972
I have also noticed that if you search for The Tin woodman of Oz I am getting more hits to our project.]]> PF_Mark hypnomike Sat, 29 Aug 2009 06:02:26 -0700 35972 Tin Woodman of Oz http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36782
http://emeraldsoz.blogspot.com/]]> Jason Simonds Rodney Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:09:33 -0800 36782 Parade shot lighting tests http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33576 http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=39709

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My computer doesn't have enough memory to render a frame from the whole chor so these shots are really composites of three passes:

the characters:
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their shadows:
http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=39724


and the background:
http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=39725]]> robcat2075 PF_Mark Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:06:47 -0700 33576 TWO final movie files available? http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=34515 I have been away from TWO and this forum for quite a long time so sorry for asking a question that might be clear for anybody else here.

* Will TWO be released on a real DVD?
* If YES: How can I get it? :-)
* If NO: Are the finally rendered movie files available somewhere for download?

Caroline (thanks :-)) pointed me to their youTube location and I was so excited and proud when spotting some of the scenes that I have done. But I have poor bandwidth at home and still would like to show the movie to my family. So I thought about putting the movie files on a DVD by myself. Is there anything?

Thanks and regards,
Ralf]]> Raffi PF_Mark Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:45:05 -0800 34515